Stove question

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capt_sail

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Oct 30, 2019
60
Hi all,
I'm looking for a replacement cookstove and wondering what people are
using?

Current possibilities under consideration are:

1)A non-gimbaled stove (kero?)in the well and my little Sea-swing
stove on the bulkhead for cooking underway. This allows the
countertop above the stove well to be used as a chart table underway,
then cleared off for cooking on the hook. Most of my underway meals
tend to be pretty simple, 1 burner stuff anyhow.

2) Just go with a gimbaled Origo alcohol stove in the well. Only
down side is alcohol availability & relatively high cost.

Anyone know of a US source for reasonably priced kero stoves? I
don't have $1000 for a Taylor stove, although they are nice!

My boat is still awaiting transport so I don't have the measurements
of the stove compartment - Does the Origo 3000 fit in the lined stove
well? Is it deep enough to use the stock gimbals with it? I have the
opportunity to pick one of these up pretty reasonably...

Any other thoughts/ideas are appreciated!

Thanks,
Bill
 
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frankdeba27

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Oct 30, 2019
80
Bill,
???? I believe the Origo 3000 is the two burner alcohol stove. I have one on gimbals and it does fit in the well. I use the countertop over the stove as a chart table and have a light mounted with a red lens over the cabinet door, over the chart table. The short time spent using the stove doesn't cut into the chart table time enough to be a bother.
???????????????????? Welcome,
???????????????? Frank DeBaggis
?????????????Vega 2141, Carpe Diem
????????????????? ?Noank, CT??
 
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rogerefairest

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Jul 6, 2007
106
Hi,

I just got a 30L Taylor cooker.

If any one has one installed please some pictures will
be greatly appreciated before I start swinging the axe
at the galley to make it fit.

Thanks

Roger
 
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emmajen5

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Feb 28, 2006
127
Has anyone had any experience with Wallas stoves? The advantages with
them seems to be that they use diesel, a fuel many of us are already
are carrying, and ,with an add-on, they work as a heater. The
disadvantage seems to be that they require the use of electricty.

Garry
V. 2427
 
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capt_sail

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Oct 30, 2019
60
Hi Bjorn,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts - I just bought a 3000 from a friend, in part based on everyone's good feedback!
Best of luck,
Bill
Vega #1390
 
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stevebirch2002

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Nov 8, 2001
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Original stove on most Vegas I have seen has been the Primus Gas twin hob.
Quite high pressure and really works well but getting to the end of
obtainable spares now.

I personbally use an Origo 3000 twin hob which means I no longer have any
gas appliances on my Vega at all.

Cheers

Steve B
 
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groundhogyh

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May 30, 2006
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That's weird. I can't imagine the previous owner changing out the stove. But maybe he did.

I am pretty sure mine is an Origo as the label is there. It is slightly damaged, but you can see everything except like one letter.

It is a two burner. You lift off the grate and a thin aluminum plate to expose two large gold color cylinder things with a hole through the centers. They are basically filled with something like a fire retardant sponge that soaks up the alcohol. You just pour the alcohol in these cylinder-canisters, and light. The fire comes up through the holes to your pot.

Does anyone recognise this stove?

Roy
 
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wxt8981

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Oct 31, 2019
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Hi Roy,
I think I got the same stove you write about. (I painted it once and can't read what's under the paint). But it's a safe and good stove, I'm using it for over 30 years.
Wilhelm, V-257

groundhog groundhog1rb@... wrote:

That's weird. I can't imagine the previous owner changing out the stove. But maybe he did.

I am pretty sure mine is an Origo as the label is there. It is slightly damaged, but you can see everything except like one letter.

It is a two burner. You lift off the grate and a thin aluminum plate to expose two large gold color cylinder things with a hole through the centers. They are basically filled with something like a fire retardant sponge that soaks up the alcohol. You just pour the alcohol in these cylinder-canisters, and light. The fire comes up through the holes to your pot.

Does anyone recognise this stove?

Roy
 
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pelagicasd

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Jan 28, 2001
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Lyric had the Origo. As I recently said we couldn't fry chicken with it. Wouldn't get hot enough. Insurance companies like them though. Danger of burning the boat down is less. An ex-girlfriend had a pressurized alcohol stove and had a pretty bad fire from it. Judy had a diesel stove oh her prior boat and cruised to Tahiti with it. After that experience she said never again would she cruise with anything but propane. Even with diesel you still have to carry alcohol. The burners need to pre heated with alcohol in order for the diesel to gasify. CNG was popular for a while. I don't know if anyone is still using it though and probably not an option for a Vega anyway. The 30ft Albin Ballard had a propane Plastimo 2 burner stove with oven that could have been made to fit a Vega. I couldn't find one on my side of the Atlantic though. We did run into another small boat while we were in Mexico that had one. They got theirs on closeout from Fishermans Supply in Seattle. We wound up with a Force 10 2 burner propane with broiler. It is a gimbaled stove and can be made to fit a Vega. You need to fabricate some uprights out of plywood for it to swing on though. An easy job and if anyone wants I'll describe the process. The Force 10 stove is available from Defender Marine for about $700.What I find very interesting though is Force 10 now has a stove called a European Compact that appears to be similiar to mine but with an oven. If it is the same width as the one with the broiler it could alsio be made to fit. Around $1200. For those on a budget you might consider a propane camp stove. Brinkmann makes a 2 burner stainless one that could probably be adapted for use on board. They go for around $50.00. It wouldn't be difficult to make some gimbals for it. Using the non refillable disposable propane can be expensive. But guess what! Those cylinders are refillable with the right adapter. Available from Cabellas for about $20.00.Or you can use a small propane tank and store it outside. You might want to keep the alcohol and just use the propane at anchor and outside. Your insurance company should be contacted about using it aboard as you might find them refusing to pay if you have an accident. WaltTo: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: CaptSail@...: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:09:16 +0000Subject: [AlbinVega] Re: Stove question
Sounds just like an Origo 3000!Bill It is a two burner. You lift off the grate and a thin aluminum plate to expose two large gold color cylinder things with a hole through the centers. They are basically filled with something like a fire retardant sponge that soaks up the alcohol. You just pour the alcohol in these cylinder-canisters, and light. The fire comes up through the holes to your pot. Does anyone recognise this stove? Roy
 
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brockhaus77

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Jul 24, 2002
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My stove is an "Origo COOK-PAL" - I don't know whether it is the same as Origo 3000. It
sure looks old enough for being "orginal" equipment - I even have a instruction sheet (in
Swedish as well as an English translation). I can post the latter (the English translation) if
anyone is interested.

- Sebastian (1060 VegaLyra)
 
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imbissfrank

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Mar 28, 2011
261
Sebastian,
Your Cook Pal is actually a heater that doubles as a single burner stove. The Origo 3000 is a two burner stove.
Frank Gallardo
V-2184 sv Cin Cin

brockhaus77 sekuhn@... wrote:
My stove is an "Origo COOK-PAL" - I don't know whether it is the same as Origo 3000. It
sure looks old enough for being "orginal" equipment - I even have a instruction sheet (in
Swedish as well as an English translation). I can post the latter (the English translation) if
anyone is interested.

- Sebastian (1060 VegaLyra)
Frank Gallardo Jr
sv Cin Cin V-2184
"May the warm wind at your back not be your own"
 
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capt_sail

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Oct 30, 2019
60
I believe the "Heat Pal" is the heater that doubles as a stove, not the "Cook Pal"... I have a Heat Pal that's moved through several boats with me and is a great little cabin heater. Best at anchor though, unless you fabricate some sort of mount to secure it in place! I suspect the "Cook Pal" is a predecessor to the 3000.
Bill
 
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imbissfrank

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Mar 28, 2011
261
Damn !!! First my wife , and now .... wrong again ! Just kidding, I stand corrected.
Frank Gallardo Jr

Bill Burke CaptSail@... wrote:
I believe the "Heat Pal" is the heater that doubles as a stove, not the "Cook Pal"... I have a Heat Pal that's moved through several boats with me and is a great little cabin heater. Best at anchor though, unless you fabricate some sort of mount to secure it in place! I suspect the "Cook Pal" is a predecessor to the 3000.
Bill
 
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albinvega1865

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Dec 13, 2006
227
I second that!
Safe and easy...takes a bit longer...but where are we going to go??? :)
Chris

Björn Hall <miljokemi@...> wrote:
Hi!

I use a Origo 3000 and that is the best stove I have had. Easy to use and handle.

Yours,

Björn
Vega 2757
 
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robdekoning

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Nov 28, 2002
5
Hello,
First thing I did when I bought my Vega in 2003 was to install the
Origo 3000. It is absolutely safe and simple to use.
Even gimballed it fits perfectly in the well, although you might
have to adjust the wooden cover.
With 1 liter alcohol you can prepare a lot of meals.
It looks good too!
We are almost always sailing with our small kids, so we have enough
on our mind /to take care of without the extra hassle of gas.

best regards,

Rob
 
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