Storm or Gail sail

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Joe Wienecke

Where is the best place for the car when using a furled head sail as a storm sail or with a Gail sail which goes up over a rolled head sail? Do you move the car forward or aft? Most of the time my are in the middle.
 
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shaun

bisect the angle

You will want to set your cars just like you do for a reefed down genoa.... you want the sheets point to the center of the luff of the sail so that the strain is evenly distributed. You will notice how the sail reacts when you experiment with the location... once you find the right setting for the cars... mark the location for future use. good luck
 
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Joe Wienecke

finding the right place

Because I am trying to learn this right place for the cars before I am in a gale let me ask you is it easy to move the car while the sheet is under load? So as the wind freshens up and I decide to roll in the Genny or put the gail sail in place can you manually move the cars or do you need to take the pressure off? I am sure this not as easy to find the right place in less than high wind conditions so where would you start forward and work them back aft?
 
May 6, 2004
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Hunter 37C Seattle
Yep Joe start forward and work aft

but my guess is if jib is furled up 50% or you have a Gail sail up, max forward on fairlead tracks is best you can do. When I am farting around with the jib fairleads under sail, I make my best guess on the lazy sheet fairlead, set it up and tack to see result. I use snap shackled blocks to a slotted toe rail, ain't got no fancy track thingy.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Do yourself a big favor....

...invest in another set of jib cars and blocks. You can then leave the forward pair for the sail change, or, you can adjust the rear car while it's under load by running a second jib sheet through the forward car, taking the pressure off the rear car while you adjust. This is in lieu of an adjustable jib car system, such as Garhaurer offers at a very reasonable price. Might I also suggest you install an inside track that will allow a smaller angle to the headsail. Jib blocks on the inside track are handy with a second sheet also, giving you a nice barberhauling set up for all sizes of sail.
 
Sep 5, 2005
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- - Sydney, Australia 1989 Cat 30 #5628
forward if you furl

To find the correct place of the cars with full headsail (which is your starting point)you should go on a close reach and ensure your tell-tales flow evenly -which means you have the correct trim. Then bear away slightly: if the lower tell-tales break first, your car is too far forward, if the upper tell-tale breaks first, your car is too far aft. They should break simultaneously. You then do the same thing at various stages of furling, but it will be less accurate,because the sail-shape is being distorted (but you can try it out with a storm-jib). I have found that when wind suddenly increases so as to require furling, the best method is to furl, push the car of the lazy sheet forward to its pre-determined place (as above -I have three 'standard' positions) tack, and then push the other car forward. Moving a car forward under load in my experience doesn't work.
 
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