Storm caught me with my pants down

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Oct 28, 2008
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The weather today wasn't too great (30 - 50% chance of precip, depending on which site I looked at), but it was better than the past several times we've tried to go out so far this Summer, and being our last chance to go sailing for 3 or 4 weeks (and not knowing if our part of the Gulf would be even be suitable for sailing then due to the oil spill), we decided to go for it and just keep a close eye on the weather.

Our chartplotter receives XM weather, so I was constantly watching the radar on the sail to Cat Island (about 2 hours away). When we arrived at the island, there was a storm cell about 15 miles to the north of us, but it appeared to me that it was moving slowly northeast (winds were from the southwest, which may have unduly influenced my interpretation of this cell's movement). I didn't pay much attention to that one, instead watching a developing cell to the southwest that was considerably further away. I figured we could dinghy ashore, and just watch the sky to the southwest for signs of this storm approaching.

After the 10 minute dinghy ride, we had only been ashore for 15 minutes or so when we started hearing thunder from the north, and observed a noticeably darkening sky. My wife wanted to head back to the boat, but I insisted that this storm was not moving towards us. After a few minutes, I reluctantly agreed that we could head back to the boat, so I could show her on the radar and ease her concerns.

Of course, she was right, I was completely wrong. The radar showed what was becoming more and more obvious with the darkening sky... this storm was moving towards us, and FAST. I deflated and stowed the dinghy, and then we pulled up anchor and got out of there.

I'm not sure whether or not that was the wisest move. I didn't feel comfortable remaining anchored there, because we were only in about 5.5' of water (we draw 4'), and I was concerned that a wind shift due to downdrafts from the storm might swing us around towards shallower water. Looking at the movement of the storm on radar, and the shoals of the tip of the island we'd have to avoid, I figured that we could run to the west and only catch the edge of it, and that's how it worked out, but just barely (caught some gusty winds, and 10 minutes or so of moderate rain), as my wife closed all the hatches and hunkered down with the kids in the v-berth.

Anyway, I'm wondering what the best way to handle these kinds of situations would be in the future... I got lucky and didn't have to plow right through this one (or have it plow through me), but it was very close. Aside from "don't go out when there's a good chance of storms" (since during the Summer down here, these storms can pop up at any time in the afternoon), is it generally more desirable to be underway and trying to maneuver away from the worst of it, or would we have been better off simply dropping the anchor and riding out the storm down below? Our boat bucks like a bronco back and forth while at anchor... I'm not sure how it would behave in especially strong winds and confused seas. But there's only so much running away you can do at 5 knots.

There were two other sailboats in the area (both went through the stronger part of the storm than us), and although it was hard to tell for sure from that distance, I believe at least one of them stopped and anchored.

Also, I was amazed at the movement this storm exhibited. When we left the boat to go ashore, it was just meandering well to the north of us, with maybe a slight NE track. Yet when we got back to the boat after a half hour, it had not only blossomed in size considerably, but it was also moving decisively to the SSE.

--Michael


 
Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Sea Room

If you are under way in the storm then you really want sea room so you can either run downwind or set a drogue. I have seen 60 knots in these things although with these fast moving storms that usually doesn't last long. I was anchored at Block Island once and a storm like this went through with 60 knots. Rode it nicely with a 13 pound Danforth in a 25 Catalina but I quickly removed all windage in form of a boom tent. My buddy in a 25 Wellcraft dragged and anchored in about 1 foot of water with lots of scope. I'd prefer to be on the hook but that is just personal preference.
 
May 15, 2010
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Hunter 25.5 Mandeville, LA
I work on the Tugboat Dee White, if your out near Ship Island we sit a few miles off to the southeast. This week has been pretty crazy in the way of random weather. Everyday seems a rough day and the wind almost never stops blowing out here. Luckily the water here doesn't get especially deep as the Tug drafts about 17 feet and we have to be really careful where we go. Due to the lack of depth the seas here don't get too out of hand unless a large system moves through. I actually have seen a few 30+ sailboats out here going at it in 4-5 foot seas having a blast and hauling butt. I'm a bit new to sailing so they can have that, I'll watch from our 117ft Tugboat!
 
Feb 9, 2008
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Catalina 22 Long Beach Harbor, MS
Glad it worked out ok. In this weather pattern storms are very unpredictable. Almost caught in a few, caught in one last year. Managed to plan ahead and get sails down/secured and anchor set. Violent but brief. My situation is compounded by the little outboard. It will cavitate and become useless very quickly. Not an option like a 30fter or so with inboard. That's my sailing ground. I thought about going yesterday, but the coastal flair-ups kept me off the water...
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,736
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
One problem with anchoring through a T storm is dragging into shallower water.

These storms rarely last more than 30 minutes so I favor having enough sea room and just ride it out. I haven't used drogues and have not found it necessary. Seas will not have enough time to get terribly large. Sails down and secured is nice if you are confident of the sea room and if you have enough hp in the engine to help. Usually, one can ride these things out with little problem - though they are scary.
 
Sep 20, 2006
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Oday 20 Seneca Lake
i haven't any experience getting caught out, but have been close a couple times. i would think alot would depend on the bottom (sand, rock, mud) you are anchoring in and how well you would expect the anchor to hold in it.
 
Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Your preference as to whether to anchor or not.. I tend to motor if the water is deep all around.. Usually, auto pilot on and heading toward safe areas with more water, motoring slowly , main double reefed and jib completely furled. I stick myhead up kinda often to see stuff.. ; I draw 5.5 feet . There is a lot of thin water where you were talking.. I anchor when I am in thinner water, set the anchor watch on the GPS.. make sure there is not a chafe problem with the rode. If there is a lot of lightning about, I tend to turn off the batteries and put my GPS and hand held VHF in the oven.. instruct people not to touch the chainplate ties or shrouds .. It can get way hot inside for those 20-30 minutes! Those storms can move in a direction and grow faster than they are moving in another.. That “wall cloud” in your picture is a sure sign of some high wind.. Two years ago, heading east to P-Cola, we had one come out of the west and blow up to about 40..waves in the sound north of the west end of Horn Island quickly built to about 5 -6 feet.. We had a blast surfing at 10-12 kts toward Round Island.. Had to head south as we got closer to Round because of the shoals there..”We” were two experienced boat handlers; (yes, harnesses and inflatable life preservers) I would have anchored if I’d had inexperienced people on board
 
Jun 7, 2004
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I'd rather be out where I can maneuver around a squall, as you did, than anchored on a lee shore with only skinny water behind me.
 
Nov 6, 2006
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Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Paul, for reference, check out 30 15 North by 89 7 West.. on this
http://marine.geogarage.com/routes

Note the water thinness in the vicinity.. Not a lot of sea room, but yes, you are right, better to be under command most of the time..
A great place to sail, nevertheless.. a bit slickity now though .. unfortunately..
 
Jun 9, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Bayfield, WI
I guess it depends on where I'm anchored. Where we sail in the Apostle Islands some of the anchorages have good depth and I am fairly confident in my ground tackle. If it was at night and it was not safe to leave the anchorage I'd don the foulies and the harness and start the diesel in case we started to drag. During the day, I guess I'd rather be out with some sea room. We have run into a few Lake Superior squalls and all of them have been while underway so far.

POTL
 
Oct 28, 2008
154
none none LA
Thanks for all the helpful responses... oddly enough, I was so preoccupied with the thought of being swung around into shallower water that I didn't even think of the anchor dragging. Seems like staying put would definitely not have been a good choice, but I suppose I could have moved out further from the island and re-anchored until the storm passed.

The main thing that makes me nervous about being underway in a storm is lightning. I kept the autopilot on most of the time, so that I could keep my hands off the wheel. Maybe next time I'll set the autopilot to the appropriate heading, and go down below where I can just pop my head out of the front hatch regularly to check for traffic or obstructions.

--Michael
 
Jun 2, 2007
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Beneteau First 375 Slidell, LA
Afternoons at this time of year really are a crap shoot, especially if you get more than an hour or so from shelter. I think my wife and I got caught in the same storm Kloudie saw two years ago, only we were coming back from Pensacola, headed into it. 40 MPH, six-foot waves, four miles or so south of the Coast Coliseum. We motored slowly into it, thank goodness we didn't stir up any crud in the fuel tank. The boat (32 ft) all but did somersaults. I can't imagine what the motion would have been like at anchor, but I don't think I would try it. I'm sure we would have had solid water over the bow. The only good thing is, those kind of storms don't usually last more than 30 minutes or so if you can just hang on.
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
You did the right thing

You did the right thing by getting out of there. There is a lot of shallow water in that area, both ends of Cat Island and within two or three hundred yards of the island in almost any direction. Also there are some areas where the holding isn't very good. I was sitting out on the deck when possibly that same storm came through Slidell. It blew at least 50 knots, and probably more. Lasted about 45 minutes here. Glad to hear you made it and all is OK.
 

zeehag

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Mar 26, 2009
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1976 formosa 41 yankee clipper santa barbara. ca.(not there)
we sailed thru enough of them last year--but if i had a choice of staying anchored in dubious holding, riding drogues, or just keeping on, i would probably do as we did--we just kept on----yeah, scary as hell--kat was skeereded a lot in those----but wasnt a problem--except for nerves......and exhaustion....storms wear ye out.but the sailing is awesome.......and i know why we didnt get struck by lightning--i was wearing crocs..LOL..(only when it was too wet for my uggs..LOL....)
 
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