Starter works sometimes ?

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Jerry Magnuson

We have a 1979 C30 "Defiance" that we just purchased. Defiance has an intermittent starter problem whereby sometimes the ignition will operate the starter motor and the rest of the time I have to jumper between the 12 volt battery and the start terminal on the starter solenoid. I have replaced the ignition switch (No change) and installed the new wiring kit that replaces the old rubber plugs and ammeter in the cockpit with screw down wire strips (STILL NO CHANGE @#*$
 
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Todd Osborne

A guess...

If the actual positive lead goes all the way to the ignition key, corrosion of all the terminals
 
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Garry @ S/V TASHTEGO

Starter

I have a C27 and the starter circuit is rigged as follows. When the ignition switch is on, power is on to the starter button. You apparently use the start position in the switch - works the same way. When the start circuit is energized by pushing the button or turning the switch to start, current flows from the button (or switch) through the wiring harness to the S terminal on the starter solenoid. On the C27 this is a 14 gage white wire. Your problem occurs because there is an intermittent open circuit somewhere along this path from start switch to solenoid. The fact that it will start if you charge the solenoid start terminal directly tells you the same thing. Since you have a new starter switch, the open circuit is somewhere in the wiring. The simplest solution is to run a new wire from the start terminal on the switch to the start terminal on the solenoid. Better would be to track down the problem (probably a bad connector) in the wiring harness and fix it. There is another, less likely possibility. That is that the current to the switch flows through a loose connector somewhere which will conduct with the normal loads but not when the start circuit is energized. Since the current to the solenoid isn't very large, this is probably not the answer. I just cured a very similar starting problem last weekend caused by a loose ground connection. The blower would run but everything shut down when I tried to start the motor. After a while the blower would mysteriously come back on. After much cussing I tracked it down to the starting battery-to-engine block ground connection at the battery terminal. Tightened the wing nut and everything was fine but two hours lost. Good luck
 
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John Buckham

Been there, done that, have the T-shirt!

I had this exact problem. I did everything that you did with no success. I finely solved the problem by running a new separate wire from the battery (10 ga) through a 15 amp fuse directly to the ignition switch, then a second wire from the start terminal of the key switch to the starter solenoid. It's worked perfectly ever since. I just left all the old wiring connected. Good Luck.
 
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