Spider cracks repair

Mar 11, 2015
12
Catalina 22 Oceanside CA
Hello,

Does anyone have a good repair solution for spider cracks. I have beem reading about MajicEzy, but haven't seen any unbiased reviews yet. I've only done it the 'hard way' in the past, so am looking for an easier method now!

Cheers,
Steve
 
Sep 14, 2014
1,278
Catalina 22 Pensacola, Florida
Light coat of wax, and remove reading glasses so you don't notice them as much. Not an elegant solution but cheap and quick.
 
Mar 11, 2015
12
Catalina 22 Oceanside CA
Hmm, Captain Tolley's "Creeping Crack Cure". Sounds like something for more of a personal health issue, but I'll check it out, thank you.
 
Aug 18, 2014
30
Catalina 22 Madison
I have several I'd like to repair plus a bad spot I'd like to repair. Where do you start?

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Feb 26, 2004
22,979
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I have several I'd like to repair plus a bad spot I'd like to repair. Where do you start?

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Where do you start?

Every single Catalina boat manual I have ever seen includes a section on fiberglass repair.

http://www.c34.org/wiki/index.php?title=Manuals

Scroll down to Mark I manual, open the PDF and scroll down past the Table of Contents.

There are more "How to repair fiberglass" topics and most likely by now YouTube videos than you can shake a stick at! :eek:

And if this doesn't help, one starts with Google. :D:D:D

Really guys...

Good luck.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,979
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Hmm, Captain Tolley's "Creeping Crack Cure". Sounds like something for more of a personal health issue, but I'll check it out, thank you.
Funny. :dance: I thought the same thing, too. It's good stuff for little spider cracks.
 
Aug 18, 2014
30
Catalina 22 Madison
Why Google when I subscribe to a forum with a number of people who have probably done the same thing and can provide someone novice to fiberglass repair suggestions? Think of it like going up to a subject matter expert and asking them how's the best way to do something rather than what's in the manual. I have my original manual from 77, but before googling and getting a bunch of stupid answers I thought I'd ask in this thread. For instance do I need to lay fibers in and use gel coat or do I need epoxy filler? Not trying to get snotty I just don't like people telling others to just google something when they reach out for help.
 
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Feb 26, 2004
22,979
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Why Google when I subscribe to a forum with a number of people who have probably done the same thing and can provide someone novice to fiberglass repair suggestions? Think of it like going up to a subject matter expert and asking them how's the best way to do something rather than what's in the manual. I have my original manual from 77, but before googling and getting a bunch of stupid answers I thought I'd ask in this thread. For instance do I need to lay fibers in and use gel coat or do I need epoxy filler? Not trying to get snotty I just don't like people telling others to just google something when they reach out for help.
Editorial:

Yes, you are correct, except...

In many cases, perhaps not yours, it indicates that the OP hasn't done their own homework and is asking others to do it for them.

There's a good reason for these forums, and you described it nicely.

However, the "use of the available" is an important thing to remember.

Many times questions are general, like yours: "Here's what I have, what do I do with it?"

That prompts replies like mine, although, as I have and I almost ALWAYS DO, I gave you a link. No way for me to know you already had it.

Everybody with a boat should have the manual for their boat. For almost all Catalinas, they are available on the web. I remember that fiberglass section from my 1981 Catalina 22, and it was with my 1981 Catalina 25, and my 1986 Catalina 34. Other boat manuals may be harder to find, but this forum has a great section for other boat manufacturers' manuals thanks to the great skippers who are active here in sharing information. If you don't have one, there are so many helpful skippers out there, I'd bet they can find one.

In your case, you already have the manual with the information. It's good information, and I wouldn't do it any other way. If someone would, then maybe they'll answer.

If there are more SPECIFIC questions, like: "I've read XYZ's material, but if I do A before B will that be OK?" make a lot more sense.

And, BTW, using Google may, and almost always will, give you ADDITIONAL input that you may not receive on JUST THIS particular board. There may be people who HAVE the answers but are out sailing today or this week or don't read this particular topic.

I just answered another question on another boating forum from a skipper in Las Vegas about his rigging. He couldn't find help on sizing a turnbuckle or a tang. I Googled "sailboat rigger Las Vegas NV" and found 15 riggers within 5 miles of where this guy has his boat! Sheez.

If you reread my post, you'll see that I've given you different SOURCES for your question. I did not simply say: "This is a stupid question, go Google it!"

Did I?

Why do you think Google will give you "stupid answers?" I don't get that at all.

Just tryin' to help.

Good luck.

PS - I just looked again at your picture. It appears someone used Marine Tex on the bottom part, really messy. The top holes are different. ITWMB, I'd sand them down and then decide what to do. Options are Marine Tex again or that or epoxy, faired and gelcoat on the top.

Just like the manual says. :eek:
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
I have the capt tullys and i have the cracks but have yet to try it out. I would like to know about the experience of others. My decks are a mess but other projects are a priority.
Btw, thank you Stu for the many links you have shared over the years.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,979
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I have the capt tullys and i have the cracks but have yet to try it out. I would like to know about the experience of others. My decks are a mess but other projects are a priority.
Larry, the reason I suggested it, and many others have done so in the past when this subject comes up, is that it works! It's that simple. Follow the directions on the bottle. I've used it on spider cracks and it fills them up and stops them from spreading and stops water intrusion. It's a very thin material, almost like water, so it may take a few applications.

Good luck.

From a search on this forum for "Tolley" --- http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=843419&highlight=tolley

Just one of many.
 
Aug 18, 2014
30
Catalina 22 Madison
I wasn't trying to be snotty or hijack the thread. I just have a lot of spider cracks and nasty spots and don't want to start a new thread on how to fix them.
 
Sep 8, 2014
2,551
Catalina 22 Swing Keel San Diego
There is a certain point where the number and severity of spider cracking warrants one of two major jobs;
1. Repair the damaged areas, grind out the spider cracks, and repair everything with polyester resin based filler. Then replace the gelcoat, sand, wet-sand, and buff. this requires getting a color matched gelcoat (and yes, there are literally 30 different shades of white). If you are going to go the gelcoat route you MUST use polyester resin for repairs, NOT epoxy! If you are not confident with gelcoat work there are often good repair guys who will do smaller jobs, like a repair man they will come to your house or wherever the boat is. Save money by doing the major repair, filling, and fairing first; then let the gelcoat guy handle color matching, application, and finishing.

OR, 2. Sand everything, repair with epoxy/glass/fillers and paint. Many people will argue that painting your boat over the existing gelcoat will reduce its value. Maybe so, but our boats are over 30 years old to begin with and a paint job is not as intimidating to the average DIY'er as gelcoat can be.

For the damage shown in the picture several posts up... yeah, you gotta pick a path and be willing to put in some work. There really is no 'quick fix' for something like that!
 
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Jul 23, 2013
487
1981 Catalina 22 #10330 Bayview, ID
I use Capt. Tolley's on my boat too. It does seal cracks that aren't due to expansion like on a rudder but it doesn't make them disappear. They're still as visible, just not as much of a liability. Like others have said, there's no magic for that.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,582
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
I just finished repairing a 10" long web of spider cracks in the gelcoat just above my rub rail. I sanded them all the way down to the fiberglass with 320 grit, wiped it with acetone, then sprayed it with this gelcoat

http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?process=checkout&part=77651

using this sprayer

http://www.jamestowndistributors.co...cXTAVurxEom_wio0TSXVO1ERpwFXDHsN-oaArlh8P8HAQ

Next day I started sanding down the "orange peel" starting back with 320 grit and working my way up to 2000. It came out about 99% perfect. Now I just need to apply some wax ... and make the whole rest of the boat shine the same way. :) Nothing to it, really, hopefully I did it right and it lasts.

 
Aug 18, 2014
30
Catalina 22 Madison
That's exactly what I'm planning on using Gene. I've started sanding already just waiting for some warmer weather.