spare engine belts - notice plural

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Jan 25, 2011
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S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
After rebuilding my engine and the trials and tribulations of getting it running well, we did a three day sea trial this last weekend. Aside from 40kt winds at anchorage, things went really well until about 1/2 hr out from home. I started hearing loud strange noises like a dry alternator/pump bearing. I gave the helm to my wife and hopped down and popped the access panels and the belt was slack. It was turning enough to get some revs on the FWC pump and we limped in and secured. Turns out the bolt on the lower alternator bracket sheared and it was being held in only by the adjustment arm. This engine has one belt that turns the alternator and the FWC pump. It made me acutely aware that I probably should find a belt size that would work from the flywheel to the FWC pump only in case of alternator problems. Thus two different sizes for spares..
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
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Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
the problem with one belt to the fly wheel and fresh water pump is how do you adjust the tension because the pump has no adjustment
 
Jun 14, 2011
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Hunter 22 Fin Keel Lake Martin
You can bump a belt on using a screwdriver without needing an adjustment to give you slack, takes a bit of skill but is easily done.
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
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Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
That can't be good for the sheaves!

Turns out the bolt on the lower alternator bracket sheared and it was being held in only by the adjustment arm.
Mark, I don't think its a belt problem, more like a bolt failure. There are a lot of boats running on a single belt. You can always upgrade to a serpentine Like Maine Sail just installed. Expensive but reliable.
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
That can't be good for the sheaves!



Mark, I don't think its a belt problem, more like a bolt failure. There are a lot of boats running on a single belt. You can always upgrade to a serpentine Like Maine Sail just installed. Expensive but reliable.

A simple upgrade from a grade 2 to a grade 5 or grade 8 bolt will solve this problem. You can also usually drill the ear and adjustment arm for a bigger diameter bolt.

Installing separate belts for water pump and alt will prove a LOT more expensive than you'd ever guess and will require lots of customization to the alt bracket and crank pulley. .
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Oday 35 and Mariner 2+2 Alexandria, VA
Lucky that the tension arm held the alternator up. I would hate to clean up the mess if it hadn't.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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S2 11.0A Anacortes, WA
Bob/Stu/Maine,
This is an older Volvo MD17C that I've rebuilt over the past few months. See "engines/propulsion forum". I agree that it was a bolt failure, but the bolt sure had a strange wear pattern on it and was not tight in the alternator ear sleeve. This has probably been in the making for years and may not have even been the original or correct bolt. I've only had the boat a yr. I probably did not notice it when I reassembled it after putting the engine together. The hole in the alternator ear was slightly ovalized so belt alignment probably was not optimum and the bolt was a higher grade bolt I believe. (three slash marks on the head pointing toward center. I used to know the designations). The whole point of the post was to share my realization that if something happens wrt alternator (such that it doesn't turn for whatever reason), a different size belt could be employed such that the engine can keep running as the FWC pump can be turned with a different sized belt off the flywheel. You don't need an alternator to run. As GeorgiaBill stated, a belt can be bumped on. It might be loose, but it would/could get you somewhere where more effective repairs can be made. In the PNW, there are many very remote places where you could get stuck depending where ya go. Many people have (inexpensive) parts flown in by seaplane at great expense. I don't plan on expensive belt/pulley mods. It would be expensive for this engine as the flywheel/ring gear are involved. I resleeved the alternator ear and I'm putting in a known grade 8 bolt. No bolt wobble in the ear. Took a 1/2 hr to do and I sure did not want to spend a lot on an original 35a alternator. New alternator on the list for probably next yr...and I carry a Honda 2000
 
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