We have a 1986 h23 and I have been working on the interior opening up some more storage space and finishing the woodwork. Has anybody done anything with the space under the galley? I was thinking about opening this up from the side. The other question I have has anybody added a waste tank for the sink drain? The marina we are going to be at this year said nothing can go in the water at the marina and the sink just drains outside. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Here's to an early spring and lots of water! Rob Morton S/V Euphoria
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Space In Galley
Rob, I have an 85 H23 and we have slid tupperware clear tubs under the galley to store pots, pans, dishes and food. Some folks on this forum leave the galley in the 'open' position (slid out and use the area in back of the galley for storage. Look in the archives and you'll see some ideas. /Chuck S/V Windsongs H23
Rob, I have an 85 H23 and we have slid tupperware clear tubs under the galley to store pots, pans, dishes and food. Some folks on this forum leave the galley in the 'open' position (slid out and use the area in back of the galley for storage. Look in the archives and you'll see some ideas. /Chuck S/V Windsongs H23
Under Galley
I should have been more specific I was thinking about the area under the bench seat. I had though about trying to put the waste tank under there but would need another through hull fitting and I'm not to wild about that. Rob
I should have been more specific I was thinking about the area under the bench seat. I had though about trying to put the waste tank under there but would need another through hull fitting and I'm not to wild about that. Rob
Put the waste tank by the water tank
Why not just drill a hole in the bulkhead aft of the galley. Then run a line out to the waste tank. Mount it next to the water tank & battery. That way it would be easy to get to, you could then just take out both tanks at once. One to dump, and one to fill.
Why not just drill a hole in the bulkhead aft of the galley. Then run a line out to the waste tank. Mount it next to the water tank & battery. That way it would be easy to get to, you could then just take out both tanks at once. One to dump, and one to fill.
Double-check whether gray water holding required
State and federal "no discharge" laws do NOT included gray water ("galley, bath and shower water")--only to toilet waste...and while marinas can make their own rules, I know of no marinas in the whole country that require it. In fact, there are only a very few places in the whole country where gray water holding is required--Lake George NY and the non-navigable inland lakes of NH. It would make no sense to require gray water holding while continuing to allow bilge water--which often includes oil (bilge cleaners and detergents don't convert it, they just hide the evidence)--to be discharged overboard. So before doing anything, make sure that the marina employee who told you that nothing can overboard hasn't mistakenly assumed that "no discharge" includes gray water...or that you haven't.
State and federal "no discharge" laws do NOT included gray water ("galley, bath and shower water")--only to toilet waste...and while marinas can make their own rules, I know of no marinas in the whole country that require it. In fact, there are only a very few places in the whole country where gray water holding is required--Lake George NY and the non-navigable inland lakes of NH. It would make no sense to require gray water holding while continuing to allow bilge water--which often includes oil (bilge cleaners and detergents don't convert it, they just hide the evidence)--to be discharged overboard. So before doing anything, make sure that the marina employee who told you that nothing can overboard hasn't mistakenly assumed that "no discharge" includes gray water...or that you haven't.
Its a coming
At a meeting with our marina representative this weekend, he warned us that the government is talking about no gray water in the lake. It isn't a rule yet, but eventually it will be. We have to have a Clean Water sticker on our boat now. This states that we cannot discharge overboard by accident and gives the State Game Wardens the right to board and inspect. We had to plug the hose to the maceater and disconnect the power to it.
At a meeting with our marina representative this weekend, he warned us that the government is talking about no gray water in the lake. It isn't a rule yet, but eventually it will be. We have to have a Clean Water sticker on our boat now. This states that we cannot discharge overboard by accident and gives the State Game Wardens the right to board and inspect. We had to plug the hose to the maceater and disconnect the power to it.
They can't do it, Jim...
Federal law specifically prohibits any state from enacting a law that goes beyond federal law: TITLE 33,CHAPTER 26, SUBCHAPTER III, section 1322 "Marine sanitation devices (f) Regulation by States or political subdivisions thereof; complete prohibition upon discharge of sewage (1) (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), after the effective date of the initial standards and regulations promulgated under this section, no State or political subdivision thereof shall adopt or enforce any statute or regulation of such State or political subdivision with respect to the design, manufacture, or installation or use of any marine sanitation device on any vessel subject to the provisions of this section. (B) A State may adopt and enforce a statute or regulation with respect to the design, manufacture, or installation or use of any marine sanitation device on a houseboat, if such statute or regulation is more stringent than the standards and regulations promulgated under this section. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “houseboat” means a vessel which, for a period of time determined by the State in which the vessel is located, is used primarily as a residence and is not used primarily as a means of transportation." So before TX can require gray water holding from all vessels, federal law would have to be changed. However, the TX regulations concerning "sewage" ("human body wastes and the waste from toilets and other devices intended to receive, retain or discharge human body wastes") are well within federal guidelines...in fact, in some states--GA is one--it's not enough to just disconnect and plug any lines connected to macerators, y-valves and/or through-hulls...they must be removed and the seacocks permanently secured.
Federal law specifically prohibits any state from enacting a law that goes beyond federal law: TITLE 33,CHAPTER 26, SUBCHAPTER III, section 1322 "Marine sanitation devices (f) Regulation by States or political subdivisions thereof; complete prohibition upon discharge of sewage (1) (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), after the effective date of the initial standards and regulations promulgated under this section, no State or political subdivision thereof shall adopt or enforce any statute or regulation of such State or political subdivision with respect to the design, manufacture, or installation or use of any marine sanitation device on any vessel subject to the provisions of this section. (B) A State may adopt and enforce a statute or regulation with respect to the design, manufacture, or installation or use of any marine sanitation device on a houseboat, if such statute or regulation is more stringent than the standards and regulations promulgated under this section. For purposes of this paragraph, the term “houseboat” means a vessel which, for a period of time determined by the State in which the vessel is located, is used primarily as a residence and is not used primarily as a means of transportation." So before TX can require gray water holding from all vessels, federal law would have to be changed. However, the TX regulations concerning "sewage" ("human body wastes and the waste from toilets and other devices intended to receive, retain or discharge human body wastes") are well within federal guidelines...in fact, in some states--GA is one--it's not enough to just disconnect and plug any lines connected to macerators, y-valves and/or through-hulls...they must be removed and the seacocks permanently secured.
Microwave
I took the stove out and rebuilt the galley top. I moved the sink to the stern side as much as possible. I got a small microwave oven and installed it in the galley. Works great and looks good.
I took the stove out and rebuilt the galley top. I moved the sink to the stern side as much as possible. I got a small microwave oven and installed it in the galley. Works great and looks good.
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