Shrouds and Spreaders?

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msaker

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May 18, 2004
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I have just put the mast up on my boat and I'm not sure if the shrouds that run to the top of the mast are to be attached to the chain plates ahead of the shrouds that only run half way up the mast or other way around - If attached to the front chain plates the spreaders are at 180 degrees to each other if I switch them up the angle is more like 120 degrees
 
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Jim2

Boat?

What kind of boat are you asking about? In order to make answers easier let's call the shrouds that "run to the top" the cap shrouds and the shrouds that "only run half way up" the lower shrouds. How many lower shrouds to you have on each side of the mast?
 
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Richard

Usually..

the lowers are behind(aft)the uppers. The lowers keep the mast in column when bouncing thru waves. Its difficult to tell from your picture. Are the both chain plates on the outboard rail? Whats the boat make?
 
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Trevor - SailboatOwners.com

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Hi Msaker - Assuming there are only two chainplates per side, I'd guess you have it right and that the spreaders should be slightly aft instead of at 180 degrees. If you don't have lowers fore and aft, you'll want the spreaders raked to provide balance with the forestay. As others have mentioned, without further information this is only a guess. Best, Trevor
 

msaker

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May 18, 2004
5
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Boat Make

This boat was made by Bamford marine in Toronto, not too sure about anything else as information on this boat is pretty hard to come by *o. It has two chain plates on the side outboard of the rail. I have put everything I know into a webiste http://sailboat.zipdesk.com If you can add to this information Please let me know Thanks Mike
 
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Steve G.

My guess

is 180 deg. Without fore & aft lowers, and considering a normal forestay/backstay setup, I think you'd want those forces in line, but I wouldn't go out in anything over 5 kts until sure. Is that a fractional rig?
 

msaker

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May 18, 2004
5
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Fractional Rig

I would say no, it is not a fractional rig. The forestay goes to the top of the Mast
 
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robert taylor

split backstay?

in the 4th series of pictures, there looks like you may have a split backstay. if this is true, you really need to replace the snap hook with something a lot more substantial. the snap hook shown looks like something you use to attach a dog collar to a leash, not a backstay. also, my opinion is that the lowers should be aft.
 
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Tom S

Can't be 100% sure from the pictures

But from all your pictures it looks like your Cap Shrouds (The ones that go to the top of the mast) go in line with the mast (keeping the spreaders at about 180 deg) and that you have aft lowers (that go to just under the spreaders) and that these go to the aft most turnbuckles. Looking closely through your pictures (Picture 19) I think I see a baby stay attached loosely to the front of your mast. And I see an an attachment on your foredeck a few feet in front of your mast, just behind the cleat on the fordeck. This baby stay helps keep the mast column in line and would counteract the lower afts that you have. This is a pretty basic rig and I think thats the way it needs to be rigged.
 

msaker

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May 18, 2004
5
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Picture 12

Thanks Robert I had borrowed the turnbuckle to the split back for one of the sides and need to get another. Sounds like most are saying the lowers go aft. Thanks Tom I think we're getting some where, the baby is shown again in Picture 12 notice the fitting it is running throught? what could that be. Also Picture 18 shows some kind of goose neck on the front of the mast is this for a whisker pole?? Picture 19 shows the goose neck, do I have it right side up? the fellow I bought it from claimed it was roller furling on the boom - I have a square shaft crank handle that fits into the small hole
 
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Tom S

I Can't be sure what that fitting is that the baby

stay is running through. Maybe its part of a control line set-up for a whisker pole or a spinnaker. That fiiting on picture 18 definitely looks like the attachment for a whisker or spinnakeer pole
 
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