Shroud broke off

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Skippy Liz

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Feb 13, 2011
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O Day 25 Southwind Marina
Hi,

I am a power boater converting to sailing, finally! Converted after sailing for the frist time in 25knot winds, it was awesome!
:redface:Have a 25 ft O'Day, 1976. What is the tool called to "crimp" the shroud and or stays. West Marine only has the tool to crimp lifelines, they said I need something else to "crimp" shrouds and stays.

Thanks
 
Tim R.

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
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Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
It is called a "Professional Rigger" with a hydraulic swaging machine.

Not something to be trusted to someone without the proper experience and tools.
 
Maine Sail

Maine Sail

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Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Skippy Liz said:
Hi,

I am a power boater converting to sailing, finally! Converted after sailing for the frist time in 25knot winds, it was awesome!
:redface:Have a 25 ft O'Day, 1976. What is the tool called to "crimp" the shroud and or stays. West Marine only has the tool to crimp lifelines, they said I need something else to "crimp" shrouds and stays.

Thanks
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It's called a roll swaging machine and unless you have thousands of dollars to invest in one you'll want to have a professional swage the fitting on for for you.
 
dscribner

dscribner

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Nov 9, 2008
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Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Skippy,

It's very tempting do that sort of swaging to create a shroud and, who knows, with a 25 footer, it just might work. "Might" is the operative word here. I am the original do-it-yourself-er. There is nothing that I don't do, not because I'm talented or motivated, but rather funds-challenged. That said, I won't make my own standing rigging. If you are considering it, look into StaLok fittings, or something like them. You cut the wire rope, spread and prepare the end, fit in a cone and screw it together. After looking into that, I ordered a pair of custom made shrouds from Worst Marine. The total was $80 for the pair. It's worth having them, RiggingOnly.com or you local chandlery make them for you. At least for peace of mind the next time 25 knots comes up.

Don,

Biddeford, Maine
 
Joe

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Take the stay off and have a rig shop fix it... or make you a new one. Ask someone in your marina for some suggestions.
 
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Skippy Liz

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Feb 13, 2011
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O Day 25 Southwind Marina
Thanks to all. I am having a professional rigger do it. I am trying to learn all the terms and wanted to speak somewhat intelligently to the rigger.
 
Paul Mermelstein

Paul Mermelstein

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Oct 3, 2008
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Sounds like you are converting to sailing the right way. Ask questions, learn, have fun. Welcome aboard.
 
Merlin Clark

Merlin Clark

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Skippy Liz said:
Thanks to all. I am having a professional rigger do it. I am trying to learn all the terms and wanted to speak somewhat intelligently to the rigger.
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I just walk up, hand the expert the part and caveman grunt "want new one".
 
dscribner

dscribner

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Yeah, I usually say "I want one just like this, but not broke."

Pick up a book on sailing like "Sailing for Dummies". Yes, it exists and I own it. If you'll be trailering, "The Complete Trailer Sailor" by Brian Gilbert is pretty good. If you see a sailboat, ask the skipper a question. He/she will be more than happy to help you out. Sailing is as much a brotherhood as it is a sport or a lifestyle. If you surf this forum much, you'll see guys driving 300 miles to help another launch or paint . . . and it's the first time they've met face-to-face. One fellow was asking about a spinnaker and received one UPS a couple days later. It was an "extra". Yep, with a few exceptions, sailors are good sorts and look out for one another the way that the most people did a few generations ago. IMHO.

Don
 
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RichBone

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Oday 25 Gibraltar
Merlin Clark

Merlin Clark

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Oct 26, 2005
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dscribner said:
Yeah, I usually say "I want one just like this, but not broke."

Pick up a book on sailing like "Sailing for Dummies". Yes, it exists and I own it. If you'll be trailering, "The Complete Trailer Sailor" by Brian Gilbert is pretty good. If you see a sailboat, ask the skipper a question. He/she will be more than happy to help you out. Sailing is as much a brotherhood as it is a sport or a lifestyle. If you surf this forum much, you'll see guys driving 300 miles to help another launch or paint . . . and it's the first time they've met face-to-face. One fellow was asking about a spinnaker and received one UPS a couple days later. It was an "extra". Yep, with a few exceptions, sailors are good sorts and look out for one another the way that the most people did a few generations ago. IMHO.

Don
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I agree on the good people part and also on emphasizing "but not broke". A while back I took the tramp off my Supercat in for a marine canvas shop to use as a pattern for a new one. The old one had a hiking strap that was parted.
When I got the new one home I found that the sewing person had built a pretty nice tramp, except the new hiking strap was cut exactly where the old one had torn through!

Welcome to sailing and boat ownership Skippy Liz!
An old sailor told back when I was a young sailor that every boat has a hidden box somewhere onboard. You can't find this box but every time you make an effort to do things right and in a seaman like way, a bit of luck goes into this box. When something goes wrong and the stuff hits the fan, you can draw a bit of luck from this box and keep on going. The trick is deductions are larger than deposits and we must maintain a positive balance of luck in the box at all times.
Take care of your boat and do everything you can as well as you can and when you need her to, she'll take care of you.
 
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