Holiday Greetings! We don't use our shower and I am considering installing a shelving system to organize that area for storage. I'm also in the process of replacing the head tank and am considering installing a taller, wider tank in the position of the shower seat. Has anyone done this? Any recommendations? Any pictures? Thanks!
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Whether to move your waste holding tank depends on several things....for starters, where is it now? What's it's capacity? Where is the head located in the boat? Before you even consider moving the tank, you MIGHT want to check out the link below.
Whether to move your waste holding tank depends on several things....for starters, where is it now? What's it's capacity? Where is the head located in the boat? Before you even consider moving the tank, you MIGHT want to check out the link below.
Think about resale.
Jim: Think about the resale. You may not want or use the shower but it may make a big difference if you ever decide to sell the boat. I would think that you could cut out the shower seat and have a tank made or maybe a stock tank would fit. Then just have the shower seat reglassed & gel coated. The tank will last for ever and your boat will still appeal to the next owner. You don't want to move the tank because you cannot get it any closer to the head than it is now.
Jim: Think about the resale. You may not want or use the shower but it may make a big difference if you ever decide to sell the boat. I would think that you could cut out the shower seat and have a tank made or maybe a stock tank would fit. Then just have the shower seat reglassed & gel coated. The tank will last for ever and your boat will still appeal to the next owner. You don't want to move the tank because you cannot get it any closer to the head than it is now.
See archives for lotsa options
Jim, Several people have written about replacing and /or moving the holding tanks on the 37c, including a photo project posted showing how it was done in the V berth. Do an archive search and you'll find lotsa stuff. A storage system should work, and do minimal damage that could be repaired easily when you are ready to sell. I just hang net bags and stack cushions and spare life vests in there. If you still have the original holding tank under the shower seat it may be one of the few remaining. It was apparently a weak point in the design -- too small and quick to corrode. Most opt for moving to the middle or starboard cabinets in the V berth, but a few glassed in a new tank in thje original position.. The shower may not get used much, but i agree it is a good selling point. If you do either project try to post photos when done. Sanders s/v Good News
Jim, Several people have written about replacing and /or moving the holding tanks on the 37c, including a photo project posted showing how it was done in the V berth. Do an archive search and you'll find lotsa stuff. A storage system should work, and do minimal damage that could be repaired easily when you are ready to sell. I just hang net bags and stack cushions and spare life vests in there. If you still have the original holding tank under the shower seat it may be one of the few remaining. It was apparently a weak point in the design -- too small and quick to corrode. Most opt for moving to the middle or starboard cabinets in the V berth, but a few glassed in a new tank in thje original position.. The shower may not get used much, but i agree it is a good selling point. If you do either project try to post photos when done. Sanders s/v Good News
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Yep, I have a stock tank in its original location. It was patched once by the former owner by pouring epoxy into the bottom of the tank. My idea is to keep the main stall of the shower intact, except to build in a removable storage system. My thought on the seat and tank would be to remove them completely and then install a taller tank in it's place. I have read all of the archives regarding the v-berth locations for the tank - and consider it a back up plan. One other option I haven't mentioned is to go with a composting toilet. I have a friend up here on Lake Superior who installed one on his boat (ironically a Cherubeni 44) who has nothing but praise for it. So I'm looking at all options, tell me what you think.
Yep, I have a stock tank in its original location. It was patched once by the former owner by pouring epoxy into the bottom of the tank. My idea is to keep the main stall of the shower intact, except to build in a removable storage system. My thought on the seat and tank would be to remove them completely and then install a taller tank in it's place. I have read all of the archives regarding the v-berth locations for the tank - and consider it a back up plan. One other option I haven't mentioned is to go with a composting toilet. I have a friend up here on Lake Superior who installed one on his boat (ironically a Cherubeni 44) who has nothing but praise for it. So I'm looking at all options, tell me what you think.
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... you've done your homework. I think Steve's point about resale is a good one, but if you have the skill to build in the larger tank so it works as a seat, or refurbish the area when the day comes to sell, that should not be a problem. My concern would be that a prospective buyer would be turned off by a non-standard or odd setup. I know that sort of thing was a concern for me when I was looking, and I saw a lot of do-it-yourself mods that killed the sale. My current setup is a less-than ideal bladder tank under the V berth, installed by the p.o.: good location but really should be a hard tank. I rarely use it, but before I head out for a long trip I would replace it. The composting tanks are new to me, but an interesting idea. Good Luck, Sanders
... you've done your homework. I think Steve's point about resale is a good one, but if you have the skill to build in the larger tank so it works as a seat, or refurbish the area when the day comes to sell, that should not be a problem. My concern would be that a prospective buyer would be turned off by a non-standard or odd setup. I know that sort of thing was a concern for me when I was looking, and I saw a lot of do-it-yourself mods that killed the sale. My current setup is a less-than ideal bladder tank under the V berth, installed by the p.o.: good location but really should be a hard tank. I rarely use it, but before I head out for a long trip I would replace it. The composting tanks are new to me, but an interesting idea. Good Luck, Sanders
Check some Archive info.
Peggie, the Head Mistress, has written about composting heads in the past. See the Related Link for some samples.
Peggie, the Head Mistress, has written about composting heads in the past. See the Related Link for some samples.
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That info on composting heads was a great suggestion, thanks. Our situation here on Lake Superior offers fewer options as we are a no discharge zone. It appears that my friend has a dessicator (sp?) on their Cherubeni. I'll check with him on how they handle the amount of urine they (with 4 kids) generate. It is a point worth considering.
That info on composting heads was a great suggestion, thanks. Our situation here on Lake Superior offers fewer options as we are a no discharge zone. It appears that my friend has a dessicator (sp?) on their Cherubeni. I'll check with him on how they handle the amount of urine they (with 4 kids) generate. It is a point worth considering.
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I'm one of the people who installed a much bigger tank in the v-berth; I posted some pics in the project forum. I really don't see the point in taking apart the shower seat, and then putting it back together when you have room in the v-berth. If anything goes wrong--clogging, fittings, crack, etc., you'll have to destroy and reglass all over again. Part of the reason many of us changed the location is because it's just not accessible under the shower seat. Josh
I'm one of the people who installed a much bigger tank in the v-berth; I posted some pics in the project forum. I really don't see the point in taking apart the shower seat, and then putting it back together when you have room in the v-berth. If anything goes wrong--clogging, fittings, crack, etc., you'll have to destroy and reglass all over again. Part of the reason many of us changed the location is because it's just not accessible under the shower seat. Josh
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