Sheeting on a 450 staysail

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John Van Stone

I had an inner forestay installed at the factory on my 450. As is their practice they do not provide for sheeting( I thought this was rather strange as what would you do with the inner forestay if you can't sheet the sails). I was wondering what others have installed for the staysail. John Van Stone
 
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Gordon Myers

ADD ON QUESTION

John, what sails (type and size) do you plan on using on the innerforstay ?
 
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John Van Stone

Sails for inner forestasy

I plan first just use a moderate sized staysail, but in the future may want to use a stormsail
 
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Shawn Severn

450 Stay sail - Some tricks

I have a 450 with a factory installed mid-deck stay as well. We purchased a used 110 jib from a San Juan 28. It works great now but!!! First we had to find a two new blocks to fit on the rail. Second we had to work out the sheet arrangement (through the two inner stays). Finally, although we have two sets of winches we found that we like to sheet in on the larger winch because we use this sail in storm conditions, so we had to figure out an arrangement to get the jib sheets out of the way. We actually hang our jib sheets up under our dodger, which works very well. We used this sail for most of our sail down the west coast last year. It is large enough to deliver good power in 15-18 knots close hauled in a lumpy sea way. We actually find that we can point higher with this sail and will tend to use it under these conditions even when the normal jib would work fine. However, the big benefit came in running down wind. We used the stay sail exclusively for 2.5 days running in winds from 30 to 40 knots with gusts in the low 40s. The seas were in the 15 to 20 foot range. The sail was large enough to deliver enough power to keep us moving at 5.5 to 9.0 knots but under powered enough that the autopilot could handle the conditions. In fact once we got use to the seaway, it was one of the better parts of the trip. The stay sail has a long (2 ft) tape on the foot. So the sail is off the deck. This allows to store a diny on the deck. All in all it is one of our favorite sails.
 
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Patrick Magers

Sail size for innerstay

Dear Shawn: I have a 460 and will be installing an innerstay shortly. I have been looking around for a good condition used sail which would generally replicate a 110 headsail for the innerstay. Can you give me the luff, leech and foot measurement of the sail you are using? Thank you, Patrick Misjudged II
 
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Shawn Severn

Size of Sail

Patrick: I actually don't know what the dimensions are for the sail. I will have to take it out and measure it. Send me your email address and I will get back to you with the dimensions (severns@exponent.com) Shawn
 
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