Set and Drift

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william

At 1712 your GPS indicates a position of LAT 36 54.8'N, LONG 75 39.8'W. Your are on a course of 319 per standard magnetic compass at a speed of 9.9knots. At 1800 your GPS indicates your position at LAT 37 00.0N, LONG 75 45.8'W. What were the Set(direction the current pushed the vessel off course) and Drift(overall speed of the current)? variation 15W deviation 0
 
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sean

What Chart do I need?

First , current course is given as per ships compass? I arrange a TVMDC table to find the true course to steer? Then I need parallel ruler to find true course from my starting position, oh, I need a chart of where? Wait I will get back to this.
 
Feb 12, 2005
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- - Lake Worth, FL
im just guesstimating but it looks like you had

a half knot current going north east out of the mouth of the chesapeake.
 
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R. Barrick

Just finished the exam for Piloting course with

the local power sqaudron. Your question sounds like it came right from the test book. Right now it's making my head hurt!
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I used a ploting sheet I make it as follows

Set 139 magnetic Drift or speed 1.15 kts
 
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Clyde

Using my calculator

I get 5.46 kts @169 M. I must have hit the wrong buttons, my answer isn't close to the plotted answer. Fair Winds, Clyde
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Working to a larger scale I wish to amend

my answer: the set is 137m. Speed is 2.7 kts. edit to add: this is erroneous. I didn't allow for the fraction of an hour. The speed should be closer to 1.1 kts.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
William, before this gets lost, how about an

answer. Not that you got much interest.
 
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william

Answer

Right, sorry, 275T at 2.0 knots. I'm rechecking my math because I was off as well. This is the answer per coast guard exam. I know Ross, not much interest, but I needed some reason to pull out my charts.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
But you have to know this stuff

That far out from the bay there are no crab pots to check the current with.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I will have to re-work this with

the compass correction.
 
May 5, 2004
181
Hunter 386 Little River, SC
Either way off, or right on....

I get a set of 35degrees TRUE and Drift of 2.85 KTS working off a large area chart, it's hard to get accurate numbers Converting, that would be a Set of 50 Magnetic AND PSC Jeff
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I plotted the numbers and they work out but I

still haven't figured out how to get there.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
William, do us a big favor please.

Go back to the original problem and check to see if you transcribed it correctly. My plots and numbers suggest the the current would add 1.6 miles westing and about .1 mile northing to the 334 course, and 48 minutes at 9.9kts is 7.92 nm. The gps positions don't work for me as the second position doesn't seem to show the effect of the drift on distance over ground. The 7.92 without the drift on a course of 334 true is the same distance as from gps fix 1 to gps fix 2.
 
May 5, 2004
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Hunter 386 Little River, SC
Is anyone converting PSC to True ?

in order to get an accurate answer ? Jeff
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I'll Try that.

Thanks.
 
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Randy Crawford

Different Answers

It Seems like we all have different answers...so I'll Throw another into the mix I am comining up with 61 degree set and a drift of 4.13 knots.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I have tried every variation that I can think of

and van't resolve this. I am inclined to think that there is an error in the writing of the problem. I have asked William to check. I haven't seen his response yet.
 
Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
How to get the answer

There are two ways mathematically and using a vector plot. The math is easy if you know trig but real hard to explain over a typewriter. The vector method is pretty easy once you have a map. First convert every direction to either true or magnetic. It does not matter as long as you don't mix them or if you are a wiz keep them straight. Plot both start and finish lat and long on the map. Connect them with a line. Starting at the start point lat and long, draw another line along the course steered for the distance traveled. The distance traveled is the Rate X time (in hours not minutes). The gap between the two end points is the vector representing the set and drift (and leeway for use sailboaters). You can read the set right off the compass rose just like any other direction. The drift takes a simple calculation. Since Distance = Rate X Time we can rewrite to get Rate =Distance/Time. Since you can measure the distance directly all you need to know is the time between start and finish and convert that to hours (minutes will give you a really odd answer).
 
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