Selling used stuff here and fraud

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
So I have a engine crane for sale listed here. Have someone interested…… however he won’t tell me his user name here. Just his real name? Wants to mail me a check and have his “mover” come pick it up. Sounds fishy to me. I asked him to contact me here and he said never mind he does not need stress……
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
4,336
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Sounds like a scam to me. I won't take checks. I'll accept payments through paypal, among other electronic transfers, and, of course, cash. But the check is in the mail, the "mover" picks up the goods - very bad combo.

dj
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
About 5-6 years ago "Frankie Frankensheu" contacted me about a chart plotter I was selling here. They mailed me a cashiers check for way over asking and had some story about it all. I contacted the bank it was supposedly issued from and they told me what I already knew, it was fake. I scanned both sides and emailed the images via the FBI's scam reporting website. No idea what came of it as it wasn't more than $2500 but, yeah, it's a scam.
 

Tater

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Oct 26, 2021
198
Hunter 170 Lake Logan Martin AL
I bought my boat in October. The local seller had multiple attempts by scammers using the same MO as mentioned above. Their goal is to get the goods before the check hits the bank.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,508
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Sounds like guy that wanted to buy my boat…was going to overpay so I could handle transporting it to the east coast.
he actually sent me a check…which was fraudulent.
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Yep..... Good ol' Jim Corry (thats what he said his name is) trying to scam a poor sailor.

So anyone want a great engine crane?? Ha
 
Nov 26, 2012
1,654
C&C 40-2 Berkeley
Did he offer to make the check for more than the sale amount so you could pay the mover? That is the classic scam. You get the check. Your bank "approves" it and you give the money to the mover in cash. The problem is that the bank's approval is only tentative. The bank reserves the right to withdraw that approval within the 10 day window which is what happens and you get stuck holding the bag.
 
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Feb 21, 2013
4,638
Hunter 46 Point Richmond, CA
Request Venmo, which is what I have done when I sold equipment on this site.
 

jssailem

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Oct 22, 2014
22,992
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
At one time it was "BUYER BEWARE". Now that we have a larger marketplace the phrase "SELLER BEWARE" is occurring more frequently.

The challenge for the seller is there is a bit of anticipation and larceny at play.
Who would not love a bidding war for the stuff they want to sell.
E-Bay has capitalized an industry on that very premise.

Be it boat, parts, car or house there are folks willing to haggle for your stuff.
If you doubt this, turn the TV and watch a segment of "The Antique Hunters" The Antiques Hunter (TV Series 1998– ) - IMDb
 

NYSail

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Jan 6, 2006
3,143
Beneteau 423 Mt. Sinai, NY
Yea I asked if had Venmo and he said was too complicated and a simple check would be easier…… I had numerous scammers when selling my past 2 boats on Craigslist but ultimately found great folks to buy…..
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
4,336
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Yea I asked if had Venmo and he said was too complicated and a simple check would be easier…… I had numerous scammers when selling my past 2 boats on Craigslist but ultimately found great folks to buy…..
My answer would have been, Oh for sure man, I can't agree more! So just send me cash, that's the simplest of all. Checks are way to complicated for me....

dj

p.s. I was looking for a great Tedtalk on this, but found this one instead, it is quite entertaining although not quite the one I wanted to post...

 
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Nov 26, 2012
1,654
C&C 40-2 Berkeley
When I bought my boat a few years back the seller was quite paranoid about getting scammed. My wife and I and the seller all had to go to the bank together to verify the cashiers check. Teller just looked at it and said “yeah, that’s good”. Complete waste of time. Took all damn day to buy the boat.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,508
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
I bought my current boat in a private sale, no broker. The seller had a lien on the boat, and he originally asked for 2 cashiers checks…one to pay off the lien (made out to the bank IIRC) and the balance made out to him.

A few weeks before we were supped to close, he emailed and said that they decided to pay off the lien early, so just make the check out to him for the full amount…so I did.

I was supposed to meet him and his wife at their bank to close the deal, get the title, etc.

When I walked in to the bank office the seller and his wife were staring at the computer with the bank manager…and no one looked happy. Seller and wife had moved out of town and the wife didn’t specify EFT to pay off the boat loan, so their new bank sent a check…which hadn’t gotten to the old bank (holding the lien on the boat). And no one could find the title either.

They really didn’t know what to do, but I didn’t feel like sitting around, so I told them to call me when they figured it out, and that I was going to go sit on my new boat.

They called an hour later with a plan…take my Cashiers check, to a local branch of my bank in town and cash it…then take the cash and pay off the boat lien at the sellers bank (no waiting period if they paid cash), and they could get a replacement title in Michigan at the DMV…

So, we all went to my bank branch, and cashed a $22,000 check…walked out with a brown paper bag of cash, drove to sellers bank and counted out the payoff for the loan…looked like a drug deal with cash all over the managers desk…seller keep the change and gave me the title and paper work for the released lien. Quite a crazy day! After all that, went back to the boat with a new lock, found a few beers in the fridge and had one before driving back home…luckily they were honest (just a little disorganized) and we all got what we wanted in the end.


Greg
 
Jun 21, 2004
2,841
Beneteau 343 Slidell, LA
Last boat I purchased was for sale by owner. Still had a balance on the loan, so I had them pay difference between loan balance & sale amount to their lender. Verified thru their lender that their check had cleared, then wired the remaining loan balance to the lender & title was released by lender. Guess that there is always some risk involved, but it all worked out.
 
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MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
1,031
Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
Selling my 1980 Seafarer myself , a great boat. got a few well drafted emails from an interested buyer . ( it was December on the Great Lakes. Boat on a cradle under its winter cover. ) buyer offered price plus 10k transport and sent a certified check drawn on a teachers credit union in MD. took the check to my bank, bank called credit union. ‘The check no. Is one in a series stolen from us 6 mo s ago. . . ‘ so check was a phony. . . Buyer was desperate to get the boat, i said fine have you and your hauler both show up at the boat yard I will meet you ( with local police standing by to arrest him for forgery. . . ) needless to say that was the end of the deal. . (Pa local police and the feds would nt prosecute bc it was no loss to me and too much trouble. )
 
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