My wife and I were enjoying a nice quiet evening in Cocktail cove, Jewell Island Saturday night when a large(40-50 ft?) sailboat entered the anchorage. It must have been brand new. Everything shined so much and the OB bracket on the dinghy showed absolutely no evidence of his outboard ever being mounted. Anyway, they motor in to a spot with the blonde wife/girlfriend(no flames, my wife is blonde and one of the best sailors I know) up on the bow looking down with a rather long cigarette(smokers, feel free to flame me!) firmly lodged between some freshly manicured nails. They run it hard in reverse to stop and she comes back to the cockpit. He goes foreward and drops(and I mean DROPS) the anchor where they lie, it hits bottom and he stops the chain. No rode just chain leading up to his boat. He takes a look down and decides good. Next is trying to mount the new BBQ grill without dropping it overboard. This takes a good part of an hour. They finally get and Foom, it's lit. Needless to say I watched this boat all night waiting for it to drag. It did not. I think he was saved by the fact that he dropped the anchor so hard it must have lodged in the mud. Also, he did it at high tide so it may have set when the tide dropped overnight. How do these people survive? I cannot imagine they know anything about boating, safety, navigation. "Hey honey, lets try sailing. I just bought a half million dollar boat. It can't be that hard if the neighbors kid can sail that Sunfish" ???? Tim R.
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Cut them some slack
Not everyone starts this sport as an "expert". God knows I've met enough of them during my short time sailing. Not everyone, especially "experts" welcomes advice but you may want to gently point newbe's in the right direction. I know I have appreciated hints and tips that others have given me along the way.
Not everyone starts this sport as an "expert". God knows I've met enough of them during my short time sailing. Not everyone, especially "experts" welcomes advice but you may want to gently point newbe's in the right direction. I know I have appreciated hints and tips that others have given me along the way.
Funnies
I have spend many a Sunday evening at a boat ramp at a popular lake, sipping a beer and watching the activities. Some people just don't get it. And can't possibly have any common sense. I am amazed that some of them grow old enough to buy a boat. But all it all, is a very good and cheap evenings entertainment. This coming from someone who has NEVER done a stupid thing on a boat. And if you belive that, well what can I say.
I have spend many a Sunday evening at a boat ramp at a popular lake, sipping a beer and watching the activities. Some people just don't get it. And can't possibly have any common sense. I am amazed that some of them grow old enough to buy a boat. But all it all, is a very good and cheap evenings entertainment. This coming from someone who has NEVER done a stupid thing on a boat. And if you belive that, well what can I say.
Got a good one here.
A few years ago my wife and I were up in B.C. Canada. We were at Princess Louisa anchored by the water fall. The surrounding area were dense underbrush, dirt trails, with eagles, otters, and other creatures. One afternoon, a huge, and I do mean huge, power boat came in and anchored right in front of the water fall. Blocking the view for lot of other boats. A crew, yes, a crew, with matching outfits, lowered the huge dinghy, and the owners (man and wife/girlfriend) got into the dinghy to go ashore. She had on high heals shoes, a long dress with sparklers in it, hair all made up, a necklace or two, full makeup, and was standing in the dink as it motored to the dock. Most of us already anchored there were sailors. All of us watched as they went by, and just cracked up after they passed our boats. Now. if any of you have ever been to Princess Louisa, you know what it is like. It is very Rustic. We had no idea what these odd 2 legged creatures were doing there. That was our best entertainment for that cruise. I hope these people had fun being the main attraction.
A few years ago my wife and I were up in B.C. Canada. We were at Princess Louisa anchored by the water fall. The surrounding area were dense underbrush, dirt trails, with eagles, otters, and other creatures. One afternoon, a huge, and I do mean huge, power boat came in and anchored right in front of the water fall. Blocking the view for lot of other boats. A crew, yes, a crew, with matching outfits, lowered the huge dinghy, and the owners (man and wife/girlfriend) got into the dinghy to go ashore. She had on high heals shoes, a long dress with sparklers in it, hair all made up, a necklace or two, full makeup, and was standing in the dink as it motored to the dock. Most of us already anchored there were sailors. All of us watched as they went by, and just cracked up after they passed our boats. Now. if any of you have ever been to Princess Louisa, you know what it is like. It is very Rustic. We had no idea what these odd 2 legged creatures were doing there. That was our best entertainment for that cruise. I hope these people had fun being the main attraction.
Throwing Stones
What sport is there in making fun of others misfortune? Any of us who claims to have never done something dumb while sailing is a liar or has very little experience. The post mentioned the size of the boat as if people who have larger boats must be experts. Not!!! Stupid mistakes take in all shapes ans sizes of craft.
What sport is there in making fun of others misfortune? Any of us who claims to have never done something dumb while sailing is a liar or has very little experience. The post mentioned the size of the boat as if people who have larger boats must be experts. Not!!! Stupid mistakes take in all shapes ans sizes of craft.
Dumb mistakes on the way
Next year I shall have all kinds of time to make an ass of myself on lake Simcoe as I learn the 'ropes'.....rrrr Lines. I'm sure that there will be many in the marina and on the lake offering helpful advice and correcting my many errors. And there will be many more who instead of offering assistance will do nothing but snicker in a vain attempt to feel superior or impress their friends. Losers.
Next year I shall have all kinds of time to make an ass of myself on lake Simcoe as I learn the 'ropes'.....rrrr Lines. I'm sure that there will be many in the marina and on the lake offering helpful advice and correcting my many errors. And there will be many more who instead of offering assistance will do nothing but snicker in a vain attempt to feel superior or impress their friends. Losers.
Relax Jason
The point in mentioning the size of the boat was to empasize the fact that these people probably thought bigger is better. This was truly a megayacht with he way it was outfitted. I doubt there are any readers here who qualify for the type of boat this was. I have nothing against owners of larger boats and plan to move up someday myself. As for anyone else, the point is that people over simplify owning a boat and do not realize they are endangering themselves and others. Especially those tasked with rescuing them when they finaly go too far. As for offering advice, a gentleman in a nearby Pearson 30 recognized the fact that he would swing into this boat offered some advice to which there was no response. He hauled anchor and moved across the cove. Tim R.
The point in mentioning the size of the boat was to empasize the fact that these people probably thought bigger is better. This was truly a megayacht with he way it was outfitted. I doubt there are any readers here who qualify for the type of boat this was. I have nothing against owners of larger boats and plan to move up someday myself. As for anyone else, the point is that people over simplify owning a boat and do not realize they are endangering themselves and others. Especially those tasked with rescuing them when they finaly go too far. As for offering advice, a gentleman in a nearby Pearson 30 recognized the fact that he would swing into this boat offered some advice to which there was no response. He hauled anchor and moved across the cove. Tim R.
QUALIFY
Exactly how does one "qualify" for this type of boat? My guess would be that if you have the cash, bingo, you qualify. Of course, the owners of any craft should seek to maintain safe boating for themselves as well as their fellow boaters. No argument on that issue. My gripe is why waste time on this forum to let us know how funny you think others mishaps are? Making fun of your own mistakes is far more interesting than acting like your above it all.
Exactly how does one "qualify" for this type of boat? My guess would be that if you have the cash, bingo, you qualify. Of course, the owners of any craft should seek to maintain safe boating for themselves as well as their fellow boaters. No argument on that issue. My gripe is why waste time on this forum to let us know how funny you think others mishaps are? Making fun of your own mistakes is far more interesting than acting like your above it all.
This has nothing to do with sailing, just life.
I am reminded of one evening the wife and I were enjoying a quiet evening on our back deck at home when the new neighbor pulled in with a pickup FILLED with a huge leather sofa. We watched (and snickered) as the two flipped the sofa this way and that trying in vain to get it through the door. We went over, introduced ourselves and asked if we could help. As a furniture mover in my teens I took some measurements and concluded that there was NO WAY it was going through the doorway so I assisted in removing a window and it slipped in without effort (well almost effortlessly.) The couple has since split up (and yes I did help remove HIS sofa when he took it to HIS new home) but she is still one of my best friends and we laugh about how comical it was to watch the antics of moving in. J ust think if I would have have missed if I had sat on the deck and cracked another cool one.
I am reminded of one evening the wife and I were enjoying a quiet evening on our back deck at home when the new neighbor pulled in with a pickup FILLED with a huge leather sofa. We watched (and snickered) as the two flipped the sofa this way and that trying in vain to get it through the door. We went over, introduced ourselves and asked if we could help. As a furniture mover in my teens I took some measurements and concluded that there was NO WAY it was going through the doorway so I assisted in removing a window and it slipped in without effort (well almost effortlessly.) The couple has since split up (and yes I did help remove HIS sofa when he took it to HIS new home) but she is still one of my best friends and we laugh about how comical it was to watch the antics of moving in. J ust think if I would have have missed if I had sat on the deck and cracked another cool one.
Where are these grumps coming from?
....who's wasting who's time here? I enjoyed reading Tim's post, and share his experiences. What we choose to share here is just that - a choice. Don't need your censorship for sure. Seems that we're getting a real influx of grumpy ole men here who are way too quick to "correct" others' postings. Maybe it's just the summer and everyone else is out sailing? The inverse of winter cabin fever? Not good. Get a boat and go sailing. I'm supposed to be working right now, otherwise I'd be there, not here....
....who's wasting who's time here? I enjoyed reading Tim's post, and share his experiences. What we choose to share here is just that - a choice. Don't need your censorship for sure. Seems that we're getting a real influx of grumpy ole men here who are way too quick to "correct" others' postings. Maybe it's just the summer and everyone else is out sailing? The inverse of winter cabin fever? Not good. Get a boat and go sailing. I'm supposed to be working right now, otherwise I'd be there, not here....
Learn Vicariously
One useful purpose of stories like this one is to help the rest of us resolve not to be stupid and rude. Criticism of others' bad behavior only means that there still exists standards of seamanship and etiquette that can be violated, and looked down upon. Upholding reasonable standards helps ensure that our sport retains a good reputation and reflects the best traditions that yachtsmen have built for themselves for over a hundred years. There was a time when taking a small vessel out merely to pursue the pleasure it could provide was seen as something less than respectable. You are only the latest link in a long chain of yachtsmen of good reputation that have shaped our sport into the proud endeavor it is today. Uphold the standard by your own safe and seamanlike practices at all times. Generously share your knowledge and resources with others. Recognize others' rights to enjoy the sport, and don't block their view of the waterfall. And don't shy from condemning the practices of those who carelessly violate safe seamanship, courteous behavior or who display selfish attitudes. In doing so, you are defending your sport/lifestyle against those who would, perhaps through their own ignorance/place on the learning curve, perhaps through immaturity, perhaps through their own coarseness, cheapen and degrade it. Bad behavior does not have to be accepted or shrugged off in a blind allegiance to "tolerance," or whatever else causes one to swallow it. Criticizing behavior is not the same as a personal attack. Once that is understood, a critique can be productive.
One useful purpose of stories like this one is to help the rest of us resolve not to be stupid and rude. Criticism of others' bad behavior only means that there still exists standards of seamanship and etiquette that can be violated, and looked down upon. Upholding reasonable standards helps ensure that our sport retains a good reputation and reflects the best traditions that yachtsmen have built for themselves for over a hundred years. There was a time when taking a small vessel out merely to pursue the pleasure it could provide was seen as something less than respectable. You are only the latest link in a long chain of yachtsmen of good reputation that have shaped our sport into the proud endeavor it is today. Uphold the standard by your own safe and seamanlike practices at all times. Generously share your knowledge and resources with others. Recognize others' rights to enjoy the sport, and don't block their view of the waterfall. And don't shy from condemning the practices of those who carelessly violate safe seamanship, courteous behavior or who display selfish attitudes. In doing so, you are defending your sport/lifestyle against those who would, perhaps through their own ignorance/place on the learning curve, perhaps through immaturity, perhaps through their own coarseness, cheapen and degrade it. Bad behavior does not have to be accepted or shrugged off in a blind allegiance to "tolerance," or whatever else causes one to swallow it. Criticizing behavior is not the same as a personal attack. Once that is understood, a critique can be productive.
Lets start a new forum
How about a new forum. A forum not centered around repect and dignity, but a forum whos soul purpose is to make fun of the low lifes who don't know how to sail as well as we do. Seems like there is a large group of people who would just love to express themselves this way. Lets go!!!
How about a new forum. A forum not centered around repect and dignity, but a forum whos soul purpose is to make fun of the low lifes who don't know how to sail as well as we do. Seems like there is a large group of people who would just love to express themselves this way. Lets go!!!
Don !?!?!
I resent that "grumpy ole men" crack. I've worked more than five decades getting this way. It hasn't been easy, but it's been rewarding. A holier-than-thou posture can be very rewarding. We aged grumps are a proud bunch and we're not going to endanger our venerability with cheap shots against other posters. A fella who can afford a 40-foot boat but not a "Sailing for Dummies" book is a far better source of indignation. Harrumph, I daresay. Mac
I resent that "grumpy ole men" crack. I've worked more than five decades getting this way. It hasn't been easy, but it's been rewarding. A holier-than-thou posture can be very rewarding. We aged grumps are a proud bunch and we're not going to endanger our venerability with cheap shots against other posters. A fella who can afford a 40-foot boat but not a "Sailing for Dummies" book is a far better source of indignation. Harrumph, I daresay. Mac
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