sail question this time

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Oct 29, 2006
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Beneteau 381 Olympia, WA
Hi all, we are still looking at replacing or fixing the genoa on our 361. I have quotes from a few sources now but there is a local sail shop here that will fix the sail cheap. However, they do not take the sails down or hang them back so.... is it hard to get a furling genoa down yourself or does it require special skills, tools or guts to do it ? I talked to another shop that would do it but if I can do it myself and just bring the sail I think that would be cheaper and I'd learn more about the boat....
 
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Mike

Removing your genoa

Gaute, removing and replacing the genoa is easy. The toughest part will be running it back up and it's really not all that hard. I'll try to give you some intructions on how to do it. Removal: 1. Pick a time where you expect it to be calm for a while. Any wind will make it difficult to handle the sail 2. Unfurl the sail 3. Remove your jib sheets (sometimes I leave them on until the sail is down, you can use them to control the sail if there is a little bit of wind) 4. Release the halyard (it should be located on the mast) 5. Pull the sail down onto the deck 6. Untie the halyard and retie it onto the bow rail or some other convenient place (don't allow it to fly free or you may have trouble retrieving it) 7. Remove the 3 shackles that secure the sail to the furler 8. The sail is now on deck and ready to be removed from the boat (this is the toughest part since it's rather cumbersome to handle it)(Also be careful to touch metal frequently while dragging the sail across the deck as it can generate quite a bit of static electricity. Care to guess how I found that out? Ouch!) Re-installing it 1. Clean the track on the foil (the groove that the sail runs up on the furler) You want to buy the tool to do it with, which is simply a small piece of sail with a luff rope and two loops one on either end. West Marine carries them. You apply a small amount of lubricant, supplied with the kit, attach your halyard and a downhaul to the loops then run it up and down a few times. It will clean and lubricate the track. Also note if you don't do this hoisting the sail will be difficult once you get about half way up. 2. Reattach the 3 shackles to the sail and furler and tighten them good and snug 3. Tie the halyard to the shackle on the head of the furler using a bowline knot 4. Run the halyard from the base of the mast through an available set of blocks back to the winch on the portside cabin top in the cockpit. (you may have to temporarily remove another halyard to do so 5. Hoist the sail as far as you can by hand, then take apx 3 wraps around the winch and crank her up, yes it does get hard to do the closer it gets to the top. (you'll need to have someone at the base of the sail keeping the luff rope in the groove. Beneteau supplied a small "U" shaped tool to do the job but I don't know if you have it so it's best to have a helping hand)) 6. Tension the sail so it's tight enough there are no baggy areas along the luff. Do not over tighten it though. If you do you'll see the sail stretch along the luff. When you've done it properly the luff, or leading edge, of the sail should be smooth, with no wrinkles or stretch marks. 7. Re-attach the jib sheets, furl the sail and put everything back in it's proper place. 8. The next time your sailing check the leading edge of the genoa to make sure it has a smooth appearance. Sometimes after re-hoisting you'll need to retension it. I'm hopeful I covered everything well enough for you. If you have any questions feel free to ask. Good luck. Mike
 
Oct 29, 2006
388
Beneteau 381 Olympia, WA
Excellent instructions

thanks Mike ! I'm sure that will be enough to get the job done. I have never taken down a roller furling but I'm familar from a regular ones and it seems exactly the same (well not exactly). I havent heard of the static but I'll take your word for it :) I'll keep you all posted on the fixes and results oh and if there are any problems taking it down or up
 
Oct 29, 2006
388
Beneteau 381 Olympia, WA
sail in the repair shop

thanks for the instructions for getting it down Mike, my sail has a pocket all the way to the top where the sail slides in, exactly what I was used to and very easy to get down. Was bigger and heaver than I thought though, how to people get them in those little bags.... anyways, its going for review on tuesday but I have little hope for rescue, once it was down its in worse shape than I though. I'll keep everyone posted
 
Oct 29, 2006
388
Beneteau 381 Olympia, WA
update

Met with the local sail people and the edge all around the sail had to be replaced at cost of $250. Also when they had it on the mold I saw how bad the cracks in the UV, miscolors in the sail and cracks toward the top from sitting rolled up for years. Stitches in the main part was ok but around edges was falling apart. Have a quote in with Beneteau but so far nothing, not sure how the procedure works but I'll find out I'm sure....
 
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Stan

Headsail repair

I've had two repairs on my B361 headsail. A few years ago we repaired the stitching on the UV strip and the cost was $150. A few months ago this same 5 year old headsail (hull #210) needed the entire UV strip replaced. Neil Pryde sewed and glued the UV strip on the original sail so we had to put the new UV strip on top of the old. We used a lighter weight material to keep the sail shape correct. UK Sailmakers has a local loft with a great team. Cost $750 I hope this gives you some idea of a reasonable cost comparison.
 
Oct 29, 2006
388
Beneteau 381 Olympia, WA
thanks for the pricing information

this is comparable to what I was quoted. My sail is in pretty good shape but needs a big cleaning, with that, replacing the UV and the tear on the seam I think the quote on Beneteau website is very reasonable.... just hope its true
 
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