Now that our 2001 H260 is out of the water and its sails safely stored inside, I was planning on putting in a second reef point on the main and adding a sacrificial/protective strip on the roller jib over the winter. I have a few questions for all you experienced and knowledgeable sailors; Where should the second reef point go? Midway between the first reef point and the top of the sail? Is there any down side to adding a sacrificial/protective strip to the jib? (I wanted to add it for protection from rain, debris from trailering in foul weather, and general polution while at the slip. It is already protected from UV) Are there any specific questions to ask or requests I should to make when talking to a sail loft?
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Dennis
Your sail loft will know
That is their job, you may want to see about having another sail made that is not as deep and keep the stock for lighter days, Ask your sail loft, they know.
That is their job, you may want to see about having another sail made that is not as deep and keep the stock for lighter days, Ask your sail loft, they know.
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Carol P
The reef points are pretty deep as is
I'm too new at sailing to speak authoritatively about this, but if the 260's sails are just like the 1995 H26 like we have, and it it's possible, I'd have reef points put in below the current ones (half way between the current ones and the boom). There are times when it's pretty windy, but it seems like it would be too wimpy to reef the main because we lose so much sail, but we'd be more apt to if there were less area to reef.
I'm too new at sailing to speak authoritatively about this, but if the 260's sails are just like the 1995 H26 like we have, and it it's possible, I'd have reef points put in below the current ones (half way between the current ones and the boom). There are times when it's pretty windy, but it seems like it would be too wimpy to reef the main because we lose so much sail, but we'd be more apt to if there were less area to reef.
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Frank Ladd
More protection on the jib
The UV cover sewn along the leach and foot of a headsail ads weight, this causes poor sail shape and performance in very light winds. It you are I light wind sailor I'd opt for a protective sock instead. Most Hunters I have seen come with one reef point on the POS Doyle sail in the third reef position. I might think of adding another reef point below the original but I cannot see adding one above it. If your boat is healing too much with the main reefed and the jib rolled up all the way, then you must be sailing in some awfully strong winds or your main must be too full. If the winds are over 20 knots all the time where you sail you may need a deeper reef in the main, if not then you just need to flatten the main you have. If you cannot get it flat enough, ask your sailmaker if it should be recut or replaced. I replaced my sail with one designed for heavier conditions and have been happy with it. It is not as good in light air, but I usually like sailing best when it is really blowing.
The UV cover sewn along the leach and foot of a headsail ads weight, this causes poor sail shape and performance in very light winds. It you are I light wind sailor I'd opt for a protective sock instead. Most Hunters I have seen come with one reef point on the POS Doyle sail in the third reef position. I might think of adding another reef point below the original but I cannot see adding one above it. If your boat is healing too much with the main reefed and the jib rolled up all the way, then you must be sailing in some awfully strong winds or your main must be too full. If the winds are over 20 knots all the time where you sail you may need a deeper reef in the main, if not then you just need to flatten the main you have. If you cannot get it flat enough, ask your sailmaker if it should be recut or replaced. I replaced my sail with one designed for heavier conditions and have been happy with it. It is not as good in light air, but I usually like sailing best when it is really blowing.
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alan
According to the local Doyle Loft,
the stock h26 sail has the equivilant of a deep second reef. However, as I like to sail with headsail and main, I would go for another reef deeper than the present one. My sail is too beaten up, so when I get a new one that's the way I'll go. Plenty of wind here. alan PS Frank posted as I was writing, a protective sock is available at the Catalina sail boat site. Bob Fliegal got one, takes about 5 min to place using the jib halyard, as Frank pointed out good option in light air areas. alan
the stock h26 sail has the equivilant of a deep second reef. However, as I like to sail with headsail and main, I would go for another reef deeper than the present one. My sail is too beaten up, so when I get a new one that's the way I'll go. Plenty of wind here. alan PS Frank posted as I was writing, a protective sock is available at the Catalina sail boat site. Bob Fliegal got one, takes about 5 min to place using the jib halyard, as Frank pointed out good option in light air areas. alan
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Ron
Standard Reef is Like #2
As Alan was told by Doyle, I too was told that the standard H26 single reef point is really like a #2 reef point. Like some others, I added another reef point ABOVE the standard one which came with the boat and this would be viewed as a #3 reef. This reef allows one to sail in stronger winds, but still use a full or partial jib. I feel the H26 sails better with at least some jib out, so I often reef to the first position (the standard reef) when the wind kicks up, but I like the idea of having a second reef point if and when I need it. From my experience, I'm not sure adding a reef point BELOW the standard reef makes a lot of sense since the boat sails so well in stronger breezes with the standard reef and full or partial jib. FYI, Sailcare added that extra reef point in my main when they reconditioned the sail a couple of years ago. They did a very nice job.
As Alan was told by Doyle, I too was told that the standard H26 single reef point is really like a #2 reef point. Like some others, I added another reef point ABOVE the standard one which came with the boat and this would be viewed as a #3 reef. This reef allows one to sail in stronger winds, but still use a full or partial jib. I feel the H26 sails better with at least some jib out, so I often reef to the first position (the standard reef) when the wind kicks up, but I like the idea of having a second reef point if and when I need it. From my experience, I'm not sure adding a reef point BELOW the standard reef makes a lot of sense since the boat sails so well in stronger breezes with the standard reef and full or partial jib. FYI, Sailcare added that extra reef point in my main when they reconditioned the sail a couple of years ago. They did a very nice job.
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Crazy Dave Condon
differences
The jury is still out on the jibs that do not incorporte the additional cover on the sail as it is a differnet cloth and also is impregnated with chemicals to protect the jibs from UVB sunlight rays. as for additional reef points, I have seen them installed above and below the current set that is in the mainsail. The best answer as to placement of the second reef would be with the local sail loft that knows the area you are sailing in. This has been the response by various sailmakers and lofts which I am passing on. Crazy Dave Condon
The jury is still out on the jibs that do not incorporte the additional cover on the sail as it is a differnet cloth and also is impregnated with chemicals to protect the jibs from UVB sunlight rays. as for additional reef points, I have seen them installed above and below the current set that is in the mainsail. The best answer as to placement of the second reef would be with the local sail loft that knows the area you are sailing in. This has been the response by various sailmakers and lofts which I am passing on. Crazy Dave Condon
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David Foster
Dacron instead of Sunbrella
We used dacron for the UV protection of our furling foresail to avoid deforming it at the recommendation of our sailmaker. It's working fine so far. David
We used dacron for the UV protection of our furling foresail to avoid deforming it at the recommendation of our sailmaker. It's working fine so far. David
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Al
thanks...
Ill probably go with the sock to protect the jib. As for the second reef point, the one reef point I currently have on the main brings the top of the sail to same same height as the top of the jib. Is this typically a #2 reef point!? At times this seems like too much sail, which is why I was considering adding another reef point above it.
Ill probably go with the sock to protect the jib. As for the second reef point, the one reef point I currently have on the main brings the top of the sail to same same height as the top of the jib. Is this typically a #2 reef point!? At times this seems like too much sail, which is why I was considering adding another reef point above it.
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Michael Bell
Next batten
I would install the second reef just above the next batten. Makes a nice point to tie the reef and should be plenty for a second reef. Mine is about midway above the next batten and the one above that – and it’s more of a storm sail at that reef point. Like, if I had to use it, I really wouldn’t want to be out.
I would install the second reef just above the next batten. Makes a nice point to tie the reef and should be plenty for a second reef. Mine is about midway above the next batten and the one above that – and it’s more of a storm sail at that reef point. Like, if I had to use it, I really wouldn’t want to be out.
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Tom
Add "First" reef point
Hi Al, I sail in Boston Harbor and surronding waters, too. Spring of 2002 I added a "first" reef point between boom and the original (or "2nd") reef point provided from the factory. I sometimes feel overpowered with all sail up and underpowered with "2nd" reef in. The intermediate, or added "first" reef point is often just right for weather around Boston and I have used it considerably this season. Fair winds, Tom
Hi Al, I sail in Boston Harbor and surronding waters, too. Spring of 2002 I added a "first" reef point between boom and the original (or "2nd") reef point provided from the factory. I sometimes feel overpowered with all sail up and underpowered with "2nd" reef in. The intermediate, or added "first" reef point is often just right for weather around Boston and I have used it considerably this season. Fair winds, Tom
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Mark
Yes Tom
"If" we were going to add a second reef to our 260 main it would surely be under the original because we feel the same. Another reef point above the standard would be pretty useless. I mean you could sail but why would you want to be out in conditions like that. When we have been caught out I pull the main down and throw up one of our very small sails from one of the other yachts that I take with me just in case.
"If" we were going to add a second reef to our 260 main it would surely be under the original because we feel the same. Another reef point above the standard would be pretty useless. I mean you could sail but why would you want to be out in conditions like that. When we have been caught out I pull the main down and throw up one of our very small sails from one of the other yachts that I take with me just in case.
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