Does anyone know what the standard, normal size lines are for halyards, jib & main sheets on a 1982 Hunter 27? We've owned one of these great boats for two seasons now, and have 1/2" main and jib sheets. The main gets to much friction in the blocks and we have to constantly pull the sheet through the blocks in light conditions so the boom will extend out. Of course, the 1/2" is easy on the hands but, I think 3/8" or 7/16" would be OK. Any comments appreciated.
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Does anyone know what the standard, normal size lines are for halyards, jib & main sheets on a 1982 Hunter 27? We've owned one of these great boats for two seasons now, and have 1/2" main and jib sheets. The main gets to much friction in the blocks and we have to constantly pull the sheet through the blocks in light conditions so the boom will extend out. Of course, the 1/2" is easy on the hands but, I think 3/8" or 7/16" would be OK. Any comments appreciated.
too big
you are correct I have an H-31 and my halyards are 7/16". You can get a good deal on halyards on e-bay.
you are correct I have an H-31 and my halyards are 7/16". You can get a good deal on halyards on e-bay.
too big
you are correct I have an H-31 and my halyards are 7/16". You can get a good deal on halyards on e-bay.
you are correct I have an H-31 and my halyards are 7/16". You can get a good deal on halyards on e-bay.
Way Too Big!!
I have a 35 and my halyards are all 3/8" except my spinnaker halyard which is 1/4". Your mainsheet also is overkill to the point of being highly inefficient. The larger the line diameter the greater the turning friction. Downsizing halyards has a drawback, however. The standard double braid dacron is much too stretchy. This means that the sail luff will loosen as wind speed increases......just what you don't want to happen. The ideal line should be as small as you can handle and stretch as little as possible. That would be a spectra cored line. Low turning resistance, light, and easy to handle. Yes it costs a little more than double braid but it will far out last it and is stronger than the same size steel line with even less stretch. A win win solution.
I have a 35 and my halyards are all 3/8" except my spinnaker halyard which is 1/4". Your mainsheet also is overkill to the point of being highly inefficient. The larger the line diameter the greater the turning friction. Downsizing halyards has a drawback, however. The standard double braid dacron is much too stretchy. This means that the sail luff will loosen as wind speed increases......just what you don't want to happen. The ideal line should be as small as you can handle and stretch as little as possible. That would be a spectra cored line. Low turning resistance, light, and easy to handle. Yes it costs a little more than double braid but it will far out last it and is stronger than the same size steel line with even less stretch. A win win solution.
Way Too Big!!
I have a 35 and my halyards are all 3/8" except my spinnaker halyard which is 1/4". Your mainsheet also is overkill to the point of being highly inefficient. The larger the line diameter the greater the turning friction. Downsizing halyards has a drawback, however. The standard double braid dacron is much too stretchy. This means that the sail luff will loosen as wind speed increases......just what you don't want to happen. The ideal line should be as small as you can handle and stretch as little as possible. That would be a spectra cored line. Low turning resistance, light, and easy to handle. Yes it costs a little more than double braid but it will far out last it and is stronger than the same size steel line with even less stretch. A win win solution.
I have a 35 and my halyards are all 3/8" except my spinnaker halyard which is 1/4". Your mainsheet also is overkill to the point of being highly inefficient. The larger the line diameter the greater the turning friction. Downsizing halyards has a drawback, however. The standard double braid dacron is much too stretchy. This means that the sail luff will loosen as wind speed increases......just what you don't want to happen. The ideal line should be as small as you can handle and stretch as little as possible. That would be a spectra cored line. Low turning resistance, light, and easy to handle. Yes it costs a little more than double braid but it will far out last it and is stronger than the same size steel line with even less stretch. A win win solution.
Sheaves
i agree with alan, with one condition, you fail to comprehend, your internal sheave size is madw for 3/8" diameter maximum, it wasn/t madw to handle 1/2"pu are just asking for trouble, buy gloves, much cheaper. 3/8"acht braid is capable of lifting 4000 pounds, your entire boat only weighs 7200, i'm 73, and lift a main or a jib on a 34 footer, without a winch, what the hell are ypou lifting????
i agree with alan, with one condition, you fail to comprehend, your internal sheave size is madw for 3/8" diameter maximum, it wasn/t madw to handle 1/2"pu are just asking for trouble, buy gloves, much cheaper. 3/8"acht braid is capable of lifting 4000 pounds, your entire boat only weighs 7200, i'm 73, and lift a main or a jib on a 34 footer, without a winch, what the hell are ypou lifting????
Sheaves
i agree with alan, with one condition, you fail to comprehend, your internal sheave size is madw for 3/8" diameter maximum, it wasn/t madw to handle 1/2"pu are just asking for trouble, buy gloves, much cheaper. 3/8"acht braid is capable of lifting 4000 pounds, your entire boat only weighs 7200, i'm 73, and lift a main or a jib on a 34 footer, without a winch, what the hell are ypou lifting????
i agree with alan, with one condition, you fail to comprehend, your internal sheave size is madw for 3/8" diameter maximum, it wasn/t madw to handle 1/2"pu are just asking for trouble, buy gloves, much cheaper. 3/8"acht braid is capable of lifting 4000 pounds, your entire boat only weighs 7200, i'm 73, and lift a main or a jib on a 34 footer, without a winch, what the hell are ypou lifting????
25.5 running rigging
Given the above discussion, what would be the appropriate size halyard for a H25.5? We sail mostly in winds under 20knots, don't race (at least not yet), sail mostly with a 150. What kind of line should be used (brand/model)? TIA, Bill
Given the above discussion, what would be the appropriate size halyard for a H25.5? We sail mostly in winds under 20knots, don't race (at least not yet), sail mostly with a 150. What kind of line should be used (brand/model)? TIA, Bill
The bottom line.....
...(no pun intended) is to minimize stretch. Small diameter hitech lines stretch very little, but they are harder to handle if the size gets too small. On a 25 footer you could use 1/8" spectra and still have way too much line strength and almost no stretch, but handling 1/8" line is not easy. If you switch to dacron, the line size you would need to have the same low stretch would be too big for the sake of friction. I would suggest using the 1/8" spectra and have the part that you handle covered with a dacron cover. The result, very strong, low stretch, easy to handle, long lasting and at a reasonable cost. How can you go wrong??
...(no pun intended) is to minimize stretch. Small diameter hitech lines stretch very little, but they are harder to handle if the size gets too small. On a 25 footer you could use 1/8" spectra and still have way too much line strength and almost no stretch, but handling 1/8" line is not easy. If you switch to dacron, the line size you would need to have the same low stretch would be too big for the sake of friction. I would suggest using the 1/8" spectra and have the part that you handle covered with a dacron cover. The result, very strong, low stretch, easy to handle, long lasting and at a reasonable cost. How can you go wrong??
Is Sta-Set or XLS...
in size 5/16 or 3/8 adequate as a halyard for cruising in < 20 knots winds? (H25.5, main sail ~ 150 sq ft, jib about 225 sq ft) I'd really prefer NOT to stay with the existing 7/16" worn halyards as they make the sails hard to drop. With our sailing preferences, is there an advantage to going to some of the more high-tech / low stretch line materials?
in size 5/16 or 3/8 adequate as a halyard for cruising in < 20 knots winds? (H25.5, main sail ~ 150 sq ft, jib about 225 sq ft) I'd really prefer NOT to stay with the existing 7/16" worn halyards as they make the sails hard to drop. With our sailing preferences, is there an advantage to going to some of the more high-tech / low stretch line materials?
Bill, it all boils down to ........
....how important sail shape is to you. If you don't give a hoot, then use the general purpose stuff (like Sta-Set). If you do care, then go to something better, like Sta-Set X or XLS Extra. Best of all is the spectra cored stuff with the added advantage of smaller size (with lower cost) and still maintain very low stretch. Again, line size is not the issue, STRETCH is.
....how important sail shape is to you. If you don't give a hoot, then use the general purpose stuff (like Sta-Set). If you do care, then go to something better, like Sta-Set X or XLS Extra. Best of all is the spectra cored stuff with the added advantage of smaller size (with lower cost) and still maintain very low stretch. Again, line size is not the issue, STRETCH is.
Halyards for 25.5
5/16" Samson XLS extra or Yale Vission are the right size for halyards for the 25.5. Low stretch with more than enough ultimate tensile. Be sure to prestretch the line by tying your halyard to a tree and the bumper of your SUV. Put a load on it and leave it for an afternoon. You will now have a line that doesn't curl and/or self knot at the most inopportune times.
5/16" Samson XLS extra or Yale Vission are the right size for halyards for the 25.5. Low stretch with more than enough ultimate tensile. Be sure to prestretch the line by tying your halyard to a tree and the bumper of your SUV. Put a load on it and leave it for an afternoon. You will now have a line that doesn't curl and/or self knot at the most inopportune times.
Halyards for 25.5
5/16" Samson XLS extra or Yale Vission are the right size for halyards for the 25.5. Low stretch with more than enough ultimate tensile. Be sure to prestretch the line by tying your halyard to a tree and the bumper of your SUV. Put a load on it and leave it for an afternoon. You will now have a line that doesn't curl and/or self knot at the most inopportune times.
5/16" Samson XLS extra or Yale Vission are the right size for halyards for the 25.5. Low stretch with more than enough ultimate tensile. Be sure to prestretch the line by tying your halyard to a tree and the bumper of your SUV. Put a load on it and leave it for an afternoon. You will now have a line that doesn't curl and/or self knot at the most inopportune times.
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