Has any one run their halyards back to the cockpit on and O'day 25. I have a 1984 Oday 25 and would like to run the halyard back. It looks like enought room for a rope clutch. But how about a winch? Any Ideas about a winch placement would be very helpful. EJ Tews Jeanifer Lea
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Greg Jones
Halyards
EJ I have an '84 OD 26 whose main sail lines are run back to the cockpit via a pair of pulley type fairleads for each line. One is stationed at the base of the mast and the second fairlead is located midway along the port side of the hatch runner. These fairleads lead the lineinto a double snatchblock secured to the top of the cabintop right above the O'Day emblem. I've thought about placing a small winch forward of the snatchblocks but have yet to do so. It does appear to be enough room to fit a small winch so I would say it should work on yours. I will try to remember to post some pictures of the arrangement over the next couple of days. Greg Jones Encore
EJ I have an '84 OD 26 whose main sail lines are run back to the cockpit via a pair of pulley type fairleads for each line. One is stationed at the base of the mast and the second fairlead is located midway along the port side of the hatch runner. These fairleads lead the lineinto a double snatchblock secured to the top of the cabintop right above the O'Day emblem. I've thought about placing a small winch forward of the snatchblocks but have yet to do so. It does appear to be enough room to fit a small winch so I would say it should work on yours. I will try to remember to post some pictures of the arrangement over the next couple of days. Greg Jones Encore
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EJT
Halyards
Thanks Greg, Pictures is what I am interested in. Are you able to set the Main with out a winch. For me, it takes a few good pulls to smoth out the sail for good shape. The sails creates a pocket about 4" deep, unless I give it a good pull. EJT
Thanks Greg, Pictures is what I am interested in. Are you able to set the Main with out a winch. For me, it takes a few good pulls to smoth out the sail for good shape. The sails creates a pocket about 4" deep, unless I give it a good pull. EJT
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Russ Marcks
Halyards
The biggest problem is not room for winches and clutches, there's actually more room at the aft end of the cabin to accomodate any reasonable size winch/clutch. The biggest problem is turning the line between teh teach handrail and hatch runner. The best way to do this is with stacked cheeck blocks. I know Ronstan makes a double as well as Garhauer (sp?). I elected to use Lewmar racing style cheek blocks that are easily stacked (and of significantly better quality than Ronstan), albeit quite expensive. By using cheek blocks you can stack, you can run other lines to the cockpit in the future (ie: Boom downhaul, boom vang, topping lift, spinnaker, reefing lines, etc.) without having to replace a cheek block that you can't stack. For example, I know I will definitely run my topping lift to the cockpit; it's just to much of a pain to raise the boom for light air sailing by climbing on the coachroof to adjust with it. PS: The disadvantage of stacking check blocks is that the second (or third) block must be derated for load capacity, thus it's important to lay out your lines appropriately so as not to exceed these limits. Russ
The biggest problem is not room for winches and clutches, there's actually more room at the aft end of the cabin to accomodate any reasonable size winch/clutch. The biggest problem is turning the line between teh teach handrail and hatch runner. The best way to do this is with stacked cheeck blocks. I know Ronstan makes a double as well as Garhauer (sp?). I elected to use Lewmar racing style cheek blocks that are easily stacked (and of significantly better quality than Ronstan), albeit quite expensive. By using cheek blocks you can stack, you can run other lines to the cockpit in the future (ie: Boom downhaul, boom vang, topping lift, spinnaker, reefing lines, etc.) without having to replace a cheek block that you can't stack. For example, I know I will definitely run my topping lift to the cockpit; it's just to much of a pain to raise the boom for light air sailing by climbing on the coachroof to adjust with it. PS: The disadvantage of stacking check blocks is that the second (or third) block must be derated for load capacity, thus it's important to lay out your lines appropriately so as not to exceed these limits. Russ
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Paul Palmer
Running lines aft
EJT I just ran my lines back this spring and it is a great upgrade. I made a stainless steel plate to go under the mast step that angled up on each side of the mast step with 3 holes on each side to attach turning blocks. I mounted a 3 line deck organizer to turn the lines aft. As you know there is very little room between the hand rail and the hatch slide so the deck organizer ends up very close to the hand rail and must be turned so all the lines are touching where they exit so they can fit between the rail and slide. Be very careful mounting the organizer because it will probably end up over the interior bulkhead and can be a problem with through bolts. I moved the winch from the mast to the aft end of the cabin top between the hatch slide and the hand rail and mounted a 3 line clutch in front of the winch. The set up works great! Paul Palmer
EJT I just ran my lines back this spring and it is a great upgrade. I made a stainless steel plate to go under the mast step that angled up on each side of the mast step with 3 holes on each side to attach turning blocks. I mounted a 3 line deck organizer to turn the lines aft. As you know there is very little room between the hand rail and the hatch slide so the deck organizer ends up very close to the hand rail and must be turned so all the lines are touching where they exit so they can fit between the rail and slide. Be very careful mounting the organizer because it will probably end up over the interior bulkhead and can be a problem with through bolts. I moved the winch from the mast to the aft end of the cabin top between the hatch slide and the hand rail and mounted a 3 line clutch in front of the winch. The set up works great! Paul Palmer
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Herb Schiessl
Sheet Winch
I have an o'day 26 and I ran the halyard through a block at the base of the mast,diagonally across the hatch, under the grab rail and through a clutch mounted on the top/side of the cabin. This is all in line with the sheet winch. I hoist the main by hand and then just tighten the halyard with the sheet winch. It works great. Herb <wave@rockisland.com>
I have an o'day 26 and I ran the halyard through a block at the base of the mast,diagonally across the hatch, under the grab rail and through a clutch mounted on the top/side of the cabin. This is all in line with the sheet winch. I hoist the main by hand and then just tighten the halyard with the sheet winch. It works great. Herb <wave@rockisland.com>
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Greg Jones
Fair Lead Photo
EJ, I have one photo on file that I can e-mail to you showing the location of the fair lead pulleys from the mast to the cockpit. Let me know your e-mail address and I will forward it. My e-mail is gjones.wsja@verizon.net
EJ, I have one photo on file that I can e-mail to you showing the location of the fair lead pulleys from the mast to the cockpit. Let me know your e-mail address and I will forward it. My e-mail is gjones.wsja@verizon.net
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EJT
Haylards
hey Guys, Thanks for the input. If you have photos, it would be greatly appreciated, especially of the position where you may have mounted the winch. My e-mail address is ejtewsjr@home.com Thank you again EJ Tews
hey Guys, Thanks for the input. If you have photos, it would be greatly appreciated, especially of the position where you may have mounted the winch. My e-mail address is ejtewsjr@home.com Thank you again EJ Tews
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dave
aft halyards
we thought about it alot of times and even drew out some options.unless yoiu must single hand it, don't do it. it changes the boat and a traditionalist may not like that plus you are drilling thru the cabin top and that weakens it. i read some of the replies and visually they don't sound very shipshape but..to each their own.
we thought about it alot of times and even drew out some options.unless yoiu must single hand it, don't do it. it changes the boat and a traditionalist may not like that plus you are drilling thru the cabin top and that weakens it. i read some of the replies and visually they don't sound very shipshape but..to each their own.
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