Rudder removal 1989 335

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Colin

The rudder on my 335 has come apart at the bottom, how difficult is it to remove from the boat? The boat is up on the cradle for the winter and would need the travel lift's help to remove the rudder.....or dig a deep hole underneath it. Another thought how heavy is this thing as in can I lift it???
 
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Ken Palmer

Rudder on my H33

I removed my rudder on Liberty, a 1981 H33. I had to dig a hole under the rudder to a depth of about 18 inches. I then built a platform to support the rudder using material I found in the yard. I loosened all the hardware on the rudder post, and dropped the rudder by myself. The weight was under 50 pounds I'm sure. I re-installed the rudder single-handed, using the reverse procedure described above. I was unable to repack the stuffing tube for the rudder, and it did leak a little this season. I hope to give those packing nuts another try this fall or next spring. I have a link to Foss Foam on my links page listed below. They make new rudders and also have a maintenance page. Ken Palmer, S/V Liberty
 
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Ron Barrow

Rudder Removal

Colin: I took the rudder off of Counterpoint, our 1989 33.5, a couple of years ago. The boat had to be lifted out of the cradle. The rudder is very heavy as there is a substantial stainless steel post and framework inside. My guess would place the weight at around 150 pounds but it will seem like much more because it is so awkward to handle. You will need one(really strong) or two normal guys to assist you. Working under the boat they will need to support the rudder while you release the bolt and ease the stearing quadrant from the top of the rudder post. Then they will lower the rudder to the ground. The boat will need to be lifted around 4 feet (as I recall) to provide clearance for the rudder post to come STRAIGHT down through the bottom of the boat. If I remember correctly, there are synthetic bushings that will follow the shaft out of the boat as well. You probably will at least want to clean those, perhaps replace them if you can find new. (Try Hunter parts department.) After drilling several holes completely through the rudder and waiting several weeks for it to thoroughly dry. I sanded away the flanges left from the mold construction process, taped and epoxied all of the edges to repair the delamination, filled the holes, and applied several coats of epoxy barrier coat followed by the bottom paint. Yesterday, I pulled the boat for the first time since the repair and was very pleased with the result. I found that to work on the rudder effectively I needed to suspend it. I used a block and tackle hung from my garage rafters to raise and lower the rudder onto a flat surface so that I could sand it and fill concave surfaces. Once it is lying on its side, one person can turn or roll it over. The rudder on a 33.5 is much larger and heavier than the older H33. De-installation and re-installation are not trivial. Make sure you have good help and minimize the time spent under the boat while hoisted on the lift. I'll bet these 33.5s drop like a rock. If you don't have a few hours to spend on this, you may want to make arrangements with Foss Foam or someone local to do it for you. My fear with sending it to Foss is that they created the origional version which was coming apart after "only" 10 years in the water. Good Luck with this project. If you have any other questions don't hesitate to e-mail: CaptainRonB@earthlink.net. Ron s/v Counterpoint
 
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Bob Rutland

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A week or two before you plan to remove your rudder, soak the bolts that attach the quadrant to the shaft several times with liquid wrench or the like. The bolts are stainless and the quadrant is aluminum. This causes corrosion and the two parts to seize together. Good Luck, Bob
 
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