Rudder crack

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Sep 17, 2007
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Hunter 336 Patchogue, NY
Upon hauling out my H336, I noticed the rear of the rudder has a slight crack about 2 feet down from the top. Fast forward a week and a slight water drip is coming from the crack. With cold weather coming, I am concerned of water remaining inside, freezing and causing further damage. Any idea on how to drain any remaining water out?... Drill weep hole at bottom?..... How would I repair the crack once I have drained fully?
 
Aug 9, 2011
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Pearson 30 Chicago
Not a good situation. I'd drill a few exploratory holes and see if you can get the water to drain out. A shop vac might help you get some water out. Try to tape plastic on the top of the rudder so no new water gets in , but it can still drain at the bottom, and leave the bottom open over the winter. Repairs can be easily made in the spring with thickened epoxy or marine tex.
depending on the rudder material and age of the boat, the water can rot the metal rudder post to rudder material interface if left untreated. You ever dropped the rudder on your boat? Degree of difficulty depends on the steering gear, how your boat is stored, ( a dirt yard lets you dig a hole to drop it if necessary) and how sure you want to be, but taking it inside for the winter will guarantee it won't freeze or crack. Good luck.
 
Sep 17, 2007
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Hunter 336 Patchogue, NY
Thanks for the reply..... Will look into dropping it as you suggest
 
Feb 26, 2009
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Oday 30 Anchor Yacht Club, Bristol PA
If the water is brown and syrup like..the foam core be a rotting
 
May 31, 2007
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Hunter 37 cutter Blind River
Generally water gets in where the stainless post exits the top of the rudder. Different expansion/contraction rates. That joint needs to be opened up and caulked with a good waterproof, flexible material.
Drain holes to let water escape at the bottom are necessary. However, if the core is wet, it will likely never dry out no matter how many holes you put in it or how you heat it over the winter.
Rudders saturated with salt water will lose the web to post stainless bond sooner than will a fresh water boat.
 
Sep 17, 2007
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Hunter 336 Patchogue, NY
Drilled 2 weep holes and was surprised how much water drained.....was glad to see that it was clear water so perhaps I caught early. covered crack with plastic....Thanks for the advice all.
 
Feb 2, 2012
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Catalina 34 Gig Harbor
I have a 34 Catalina. I hauled out and found that I had water in the rudder. I was told at the Seattle boat show that Catalina has recomended that a weep hole be drilled at the bottom the rudder and left open and that water in the core does not hurt the rudder core. I have always thought that the rudder core should be kept dry. Is there a modification to keep the rudder core wet? Thank you
 
May 28, 2009
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Hunter 376 Pensacola, FL
If the original poster has an H336, then he doesn't have any stainless steel in his rudder. Those boats were built with Foss Foam rudders and have a composite rudder post. There is no issue with corrosion to worry about, even if the rudder if full of water. It could still freeze and crack the blade though. To be sure, remove the deck plate aft of your pedestal and take a look at the rudder stock where the radial drive wheel is mounted to the stock. My guess is you'll see a thick walled hollow tube for a rudder stock, and not a stainless steel shaft.

The all composite rudders are a pretty cool design, because of the fact that there's nothing to corrode. They're also much stronger than a conventional fiberglass over steel shaft and webs type rudder. The only complaint I've heard about them is that they don't give you any indication if you damage them severely and weaken them. If you go hard aground with a conventional rudder, the fact that your rudder is now sticking out at a funny angle tells you that you hurt something. With the composite rudder stock, if you ran it hard into something, you could crack and splinter the shaft, but you wouldn't be able to tell untill it just fails and falls off.
 
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