Rowers rescued in rough seas by Coast Guard

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Let's see, with a one-day safe boating course and and two days of rowing experience this Organizer determined that these dudes were qualified to row a boat from California to Hawaii. What could go wrong? It is one thing for some Thor Heyerdahl type to launch his big adventure into the unknown, but to organize the stupid and launch a flotilla of dumb - somebody is going to get a stern C&D from the Coasties.
 

Zzzzzz

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Jun 19, 2014
30
Let's see, with a one-day safe boating course and and two days of rowing experience this Organizer determined that these dudes were qualified to row a boat from California to Hawaii. What could go wrong? It is one thing for some Thor Heyerdahl type to launch his big adventure into the unknown, but to organize the stupid and launch a flotilla of dumb - somebody is going to get a stern C&D from the Coasties.
"Each of the crews spent months if not years preparing for the race, completing mandatory courses and gaining valuable practical experience of being at sea. With exceptional levels of support throughout all stages of the race from the first steps of planning to their arrival in Hawaii, we know they will be successful."

They were not. However, it was not because they only had a one day safe boating course and two days of rowing experience as you stated. In the case of the one that was airlifted out, they had equipment failure, in that their boat started taking on water that exceeded the ability of their bilge pump. It was not due to their inexperience or failure of skill.
 
Jan 6, 2010
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I have to agree with Gunni in a sense. Nothing to do with their training & preparation but , rather their quest is fool hearted in scope.

Why would anyone in their right mind want to cross an expanse of ocean while rowing? The name Pacific is a misnomer in term. It is anything but peaceful. Six guys in an open sea-going canoe rowing 2700 miles, really.........Why?

Ever hear the term "Death Wish"? Some may call them Daredevils however, I refer to these types as idiots that were lucky enough to survive the folly of their quest. I know some will disagree with me but, it's alot easier to die while being stupid.

CR
 
Sep 20, 2006
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Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Atlantic Rowing races have been going on for many years. This isn't a new concept or people jumping in a rowboat on a whim.
 
Aug 16, 2009
1,000
Hunter 1986 H31 California Yacht Marina, Chula Vista, CA
Ron, I'm suspecting that when Columbus was looking for crews, he pretty much got what you said, except in Spanish.
More seriously, according to their website, it could take up to 90 days for a single to row the 2400 miles? Since there is no real way to row around the weather, can one actually hope for a suitable "weather window" that large? On average, this time of year how likely is one to encounter 20 foot waves on that route?
 
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
Wuf,

Weather is dynamic thus always changing. Waves will change also.

I believe in working smart not hard. Ocean cross rowing (not advisable) to me is hard. To sail, power or fly to Hawaii, now that's smart. Yet, there are some that feel the need to defend this dumb race & the oarsmen. Oh well, each to his own.

CR
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
"Each of the crews spent months if not years preparing for the race, completing mandatory courses and gaining valuable practical experience of being at sea. With exceptional levels of support throughout all stages of the race from the first steps of planning to their arrival in Hawaii, we know they will be successful."

They were not. However, it was not because they only had a one day safe boating course and two days of rowing experience as you stated. In the case of the one that was airlifted out, they had equipment failure, in that their boat started taking on water that exceeded the ability of their bilge pump. It was not due to their inexperience or failure of skill.
That's just the organizers PR, bud. Read the Race Rules, they define the crew qualification requirements. The guys that had to be lifted by the CG, they were new to the boat, and never tested its seaworthiness. Inexcusably dumb.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
If they successed very few people would notice. Since they failed, it got on the news big time. The orgainzer won.
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
IIRC, someone rowed into Fla last month from England. saw him on local tv. think it was called a kayak, but looked more like a lifeboat.

-Still you would think they would have verified the boat was watertight. before leaving.
 
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
Guys,

Now that most all opinions are in, it's STILL a stupid & dangerous trek."Oh wow, I rowed to Hawaii".....really man, or was it just by luck you, thru no fault of your own, you survived the journey to begin with? I NEVER heard mention of chase boats being a part of this. REALLY, are you kidding me, where was the backup?

I believe, all of the other early explorers sailed these great distances, not rowed...DUH? If you want to kill yourself on an adventure's whim, you need to remember this one important thought. All areas of the planet have already been explored so, keeping this in mind, everything these early explorers have done, makes your attempt merely a broken record, nothing new. Where's the exultance in this, where's the real fulfillment of new exploration, what was done anew.........sadly not a thing except endurance.

We lose good people all year round, close in & offshore, experienced and/or not. Why then, should this be any different, it's not only a question of some getting caught up in semantics but, reasonable safety & a non-death wish incentive should be calculated. Are you a bigger-badass individual than mother nature? You really want to challenge HER? And if so, you will loose that wager most of the time. Is this a wager you REALLY want to make?

Argue all you want, there are no more modern Magellan's exploring this world, they have all blazed that path before you. If you want to risk your life on a folly-type adventure, so be it. However, you may want to re-think about how your wife & children would feel about losing you to a replayed, rehashed performance?

To the naysayers in this thread, and I quote Shakespeare, "Me thinks thou protests too much"............subsequently this is REALLY about nothing & everything .

I must ask the journey defenders, if they have EVER witnessed a dead body floating as a result of their brazenness and/or thru overconfidence or stupidity. Have any had to use a gaff to keep the dead body alongside their boat until the authorities arrived or, did they have to lasso the victim close alongside, sometimes face up until the authorities arrived?

I assure you, you will never rid you memory of that stare (I still see his face in my sleep). In my case, if floating for days, there is the also a non-forgetting smell that never leaves you. Something, surely stupidity, cost him his life. Never forget, Mother Nature packs a much bigger punch than a small man can counter. It ruined my day then & to this day, his stare stays haunting.

This is my last reply in this thread, as I feel I have debated & proved all the pros & cons with respect to proponents & naysayers alike. Alot of you guys know me, I only offer what I have witnessed & learned over the years. I am not infallible, but never would I speak of what I do not know. This is my promise to you. There are never dumb questions, only dumb answers.

Rant as you will, Die as you may. I'll not blaze that path with you, I fully realize my limitations & know I will not stumble into dying as a result of my stupidity & limitations. Have you ever seen a dead person floating, I assure you, you WILL never forget the stare from his eyes & I promise you, this will change your opinions forever.

CR