I have read alot of posts on the other sites about rough weather sailing. I was woundering, just how rough have some of the Cat. 22 sailors sailed in? This may make for an interesting thread. Lets see. Dale
Rough weather sailing
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I have had my Catalina 22 in 3 to 4 ft chop with 20 to 25 mph winds. The way the hull is designed with a flat bottom it pounds an shakes the mast and rigging a lot, Even some spray comes over the bow at times. Great fun, but a little hard on the boat I feel. Quartering the waves doesn't seem to help much with the pounding. Fair winds AL
How rough!
On a flood control dam in northern Pennsylvania, winds blowing 25 to 35 mph all day at a distance of 10 miles over the water created very large waves. How big, had to steer up one side and adjust steering down the other side. Under motor, following wave completely submerged the engine. Under sail the boat handles much better, must be the distribution of power along it's length and the leverage of the angled keel that stabilizes the boat in rough water. Found water in the boat in places not thought possible. What a rush!!!! When winds pick up, all my 22 foot and some larger trailer sailor friend's want to use the Catalina 22.
On a flood control dam in northern Pennsylvania, winds blowing 25 to 35 mph all day at a distance of 10 miles over the water created very large waves. How big, had to steer up one side and adjust steering down the other side. Under motor, following wave completely submerged the engine. Under sail the boat handles much better, must be the distribution of power along it's length and the leverage of the angled keel that stabilizes the boat in rough water. Found water in the boat in places not thought possible. What a rush!!!! When winds pick up, all my 22 foot and some larger trailer sailor friend's want to use the Catalina 22.
Waves
Hi, I thought that I"d throw this out. I was just reading a book entitled, "Sailor's Secrets: Advice from the Masters." and a comment was in there from someone named Karl Kirkman that "through model testing, a boat left to run off on her own might be broached by a wave equivalent to 35% of her waterline length. for a C22=6.765'. "Steadied" by a drogue,however, yachts withstood waves as tall as 55% waterline length. For a C22=10.63' " My question is, does the fact that it's salt water or fresh make a difference? I dont think that a 6' wave on my lake happens very often but I wouldn't want to be out in it if it did. ~Bilbo
Hi, I thought that I"d throw this out. I was just reading a book entitled, "Sailor's Secrets: Advice from the Masters." and a comment was in there from someone named Karl Kirkman that "through model testing, a boat left to run off on her own might be broached by a wave equivalent to 35% of her waterline length. for a C22=6.765'. "Steadied" by a drogue,however, yachts withstood waves as tall as 55% waterline length. For a C22=10.63' " My question is, does the fact that it's salt water or fresh make a difference? I dont think that a 6' wave on my lake happens very often but I wouldn't want to be out in it if it did. ~Bilbo
Large Wave
Last summer my family, 2 teenaged daughters and my wife, were returning from Blake Island in Washington's Puget Sound. The day was sunny, 75 deg with 10 kts of wind from the North. When we were on the West side of the island headed home to Sinclair Inlet, a large powerboat at least 50 feet long came out of Rich Pass headed right at us, but yet about a mile away. We were sailing on a starboard tack and it seemed to me that the Power Boater (PB) couldn't miss our sails and would give us the right of way. My 15y/o daughter had the helm and became concerned "very early" and wanted to tack away from the speeding PB. I quizzed her on the rules of the road in this condition in an effort to get her to wait a little longer. When it became very apparent that the PB was not doing any thing to avoid us we first tacked and then a few moments later we dropped and started the motor in an effort to move out of the way! When the PB was about 50 yards from us, a head popped up from the control tower of the now extremely large boat and suddenly the boat verred away from us only to kick up a very ominous 6 foot wave! I shouted "head into the wave" to my 15 y/o helmsman daughter, then "grab onto something" to my wife and other daughter. The next 15 seconds seemed like days. We rode up the wave and seemed to stall at the top. When we crested the wave we surfed down the backside the motor now whining without resistance. We crashed into the water on the other side with a loud and most wet bang submerging the bow of the boat up to the forward hatch. We popped up like a cork, and then I heard the swing keel give a loud boom. The motor calmed down and my helmsan daughter put us on a safe course. I asked how every one was and then we all checked the boat and ourselves for leaks. The only loss we suffered was our wind indicator from the top of the mast. Looking back in hind sight, calling the person on the radio prior to the event may have helped. Getting the name of the yacht as it passed would have been smart, but it wasn't on my list of things to do immediately after a casualty. I'm glad my daughter listened to me! (Good kid eh?) We could have swamped easily! I'm also glad that the refit I did on our 1973 Catalina 22 hull number 2226 was good. So not really rough seas but one hell of a rough wave due to an inconsiderate power boater and a slow to ID a potential problem sailor. It's like my old friend Don says, "If your thinking about reefing... its to late. You should have already." Campy
Last summer my family, 2 teenaged daughters and my wife, were returning from Blake Island in Washington's Puget Sound. The day was sunny, 75 deg with 10 kts of wind from the North. When we were on the West side of the island headed home to Sinclair Inlet, a large powerboat at least 50 feet long came out of Rich Pass headed right at us, but yet about a mile away. We were sailing on a starboard tack and it seemed to me that the Power Boater (PB) couldn't miss our sails and would give us the right of way. My 15y/o daughter had the helm and became concerned "very early" and wanted to tack away from the speeding PB. I quizzed her on the rules of the road in this condition in an effort to get her to wait a little longer. When it became very apparent that the PB was not doing any thing to avoid us we first tacked and then a few moments later we dropped and started the motor in an effort to move out of the way! When the PB was about 50 yards from us, a head popped up from the control tower of the now extremely large boat and suddenly the boat verred away from us only to kick up a very ominous 6 foot wave! I shouted "head into the wave" to my 15 y/o helmsman daughter, then "grab onto something" to my wife and other daughter. The next 15 seconds seemed like days. We rode up the wave and seemed to stall at the top. When we crested the wave we surfed down the backside the motor now whining without resistance. We crashed into the water on the other side with a loud and most wet bang submerging the bow of the boat up to the forward hatch. We popped up like a cork, and then I heard the swing keel give a loud boom. The motor calmed down and my helmsan daughter put us on a safe course. I asked how every one was and then we all checked the boat and ourselves for leaks. The only loss we suffered was our wind indicator from the top of the mast. Looking back in hind sight, calling the person on the radio prior to the event may have helped. Getting the name of the yacht as it passed would have been smart, but it wasn't on my list of things to do immediately after a casualty. I'm glad my daughter listened to me! (Good kid eh?) We could have swamped easily! I'm also glad that the refit I did on our 1973 Catalina 22 hull number 2226 was good. So not really rough seas but one hell of a rough wave due to an inconsiderate power boater and a slow to ID a potential problem sailor. It's like my old friend Don says, "If your thinking about reefing... its to late. You should have already." Campy
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