Rough Sea Stories for MacGregor 26D,S ,C

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cscott

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Oct 18, 2007
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Macgregor 26S - 1993 Aumsville, OR
Tell us about your MacGregor 26D,S,C experiences sailing in Rough Seas and High Winds. How high were the seas, and what wind velocities. What type of troubles or damages did you have? How did she handle? I will be sailing in the Strait of Juan De Fuca and Strait of George next year in my 26C, and was wondering what I can expect if I get into a blow or rough seas. Thanks, Chuck
 

cscott

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Oct 18, 2007
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Macgregor 26S - 1993 Aumsville, OR
Tell us about your MacGregor 26D,S,C experiences sailing in Rough Seas and High Winds. How high were the seas, and what wind velocities. What type of troubles or damages did you have? How did she handle? I will be sailing in the Strait of Juan De Fuca and Strait of George next year in my 26C, and was wondering what I can expect if I get into a blow or rough seas. Thanks, Chuck
 
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70623

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Jul 14, 2004
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Bristol 30 Le Roy, Mi.
Rough Seas

Not much of a story, but I have a VN 23 that was abandoned off the Va coast durring Hurrican Floyd. 2 people were air lifted off of her, then 4 days latter some boat towed her in. Neat part, with no-one aboard taking care of anything, the companionway hatch left open, she weathered the storm with only minor damage. She did loose her rudder (the whole darn thing, tiller and all) and her outboard and outboard mount. Got a few dings in the transome from the motor before it let go. And since the sails were left on the deck and boom, they were ragged. But not bad damage for going through a hurricane at sea. The people could have just brought in the sails, buttoned her up and waited. May have even been able to save the rudder and outboard if they had stayed aboard. What a shame to risk the CG's chopper crew when there was really no need to leave. BUT I've heard of people abandoning their sailboats in rough weather just because they were sea sick! She's rebuilt now, new blue paint, new OB mount and Outboard, New rudder and tiller. All the gouges filled. New set of sails. You would never believe that a little boat like a Vn23 could go through a hurricane, but this one did. Oh, I bought her for salvage, real cheap!!
 
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John S

Rough Conditions

I have a 87 D model that I sail in most any conditions. I sailed the boat (and heavily laden) into winds of 20 odd knots gusting to something larger. The body of water was Yellowstone Lake, and there was sufficient fetch to get a pretty good swell going. I sailed DDW with the main only, and a close watch on the mainsheet. Still, I rounded up from DDW and here is how: during a particulary large gust, a swell made up of 3 smaller swells co-incided at the aft end of the boat. I had allowed, at that same moment, the boat to turn a few degrees off of DDW and that was what it took for a complete round-up from DDW. I have an Idasailor dboard and rudder which helped in the recovery, but once it started, there was no stopping. I let the mainsheet go, and got the boat under control again, and took off DDW again as I was making toward a small island. I cleared the headland of the island and swung in behind it, in it's windshadow, and coasted up to the beach. Should I have had the working jib up? It might have balanced the boat but I had enough canvas out. I was very concerned about the amount of power on the sail, and because my family was below, I could not reef the main. I should have reefed the main at the dock, as there was plenty of power to go over 9 knots when sliding down the swell faces. If I had another adult ondeck as good as I am (and I am not all that good), I could have handled this situation differently. I especially did not want to flog the mainsail in that kind of wind velocity, so I adopted a wait and see attitude. As far as riding the swells, the 26D rises up nicely on the overtaking swells and I never really felt any problem there. If I had to beat to windward on that day, I would have dropped the main and motored or hove to and just observed the wind and waves.
 

70623

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Jul 14, 2004
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Bristol 30 Le Roy, Mi.
Wind & Waves

John S, I have run straight down wind in 30 K with 7-9 foot seas no problem. Trick 1; Being a light boat, balance is everything, drop the main! 2; Even with 30 K heading down wind on a run at 6 K means only 24 K apparent wind, so a storm jib could be a little small, a working jib (90-100) or a 110% will work fine. 3; In seas over 4 foot I keep my swing keel down and locked, just incase. 4; If the waves are steep and the boat still wants to fall off while surfing down their faces, tie at least 100' of line of of each stern cleat. This will help keep the stern from wanting to go ahead of the boat. It also gives you something to grab on to if your harness and teather should fail. In these kinds of conditions it's real hard to get a sail boat turned around, find and pick up any one or thing lost overboard. Lastly; Fresh water waves are steeper than waves on the ocean. That's why large lakes claim so many boats, even ships. The water is lighter and will build to a greater height with a lot less fetch. On the other hand there can be a lot of fetch on the ocean so waves will get larger there, just not as steep. The steepest waves come when to waves (usually from two different directions) meet. The height will be the sum of the 2 waves and the trough will be the sum of both troughs. When a pattern like this occurs it will have a rythm. Like every 5-6 wave. Or every third wave. Some times the patterns meet so that you get 2-3 big ones in a row, then 4-6 smaller ones. Time your tacks, jybes, and any other manuvers for the wave patterns. When on a lake waves can come from different directions due to the waves bouncing off of the shore. o some times it can get much calmer if you get further from shore. Getting further from shore also stops those pesky wind shifts too.
 
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