Rigging safety lines

Jun 9, 2016
87
catalina 22 Spring City, tn
As someone who mostly sails alone, I am concerned about keeping myself on the boat. It is one thing during the summer when there are other boats around, where an accidental dunking will most likely result in being picked up by a ski boat or a swim. But now I am the only boat in sight, and a fall could result in possible hypothermia. What I am most concerned about is when I have the need to go forward. I have looked the boat over ('88 model) and I don't see many good solutions. One idea I had was to run webbing down each side from a bow cleat to the stern cleat, then clip on to both sides. But that isn't a good idea because 1) that won't help keep me aboard when at the bow, and 2) since the jib cars are along the rail the lines are bound to interfere.

I know rigging a line to the mast is a bad idea. But what is a good idea for keeping yourself onboard should you slip while going forward?
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
22,327
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
I secure the two web jack lines. I attach with a tether. When going to bow beyond the mast I'm on my knees and holding onto the boat. When on the bow I use the 3 foot tether to a padeye on the bow. Let's stay attached and frees my hands to deal with sail or anchor. Stay low, tethered, and hold on. The two line tether has been a help.

At the mast I'm tethered to the mast while I work the sails. Then it ge t back to the cockpit I'm tethered to the jack line on the high side of the boat. Hold on and move deliberately.
 
Nov 19, 2008
2,129
Catalina C-22 MK-II Parrish, FL
Why are you going forward? You said you're looking at a 1988 model, which has a HUGE forward hatch. Will you have roller furling? I'm a hank on guy, and "if" I need to secure the jib when I use the down haul, I can open the hatch and secure the jib with the majority of my body still in the cabin. Will you be on autopilot? If the answer is no, when you fall off, the boat ain't sailing onward, most likely it's going to turn and stall. Unless you have done some modifications, the C-22 has a built in weather helm, so once your hand is off the tiller, it's going to stall. Maybe let the swim ladder down prior as a precaution? I would be more concerned on how you're going to get back onboard if you fall overboard. And let's say the weather turns nasty unexpectedly, the heck with the sails, turn them loose and proceed to a safe location.

But the best advice.........never ever, ever, ever go out without a life jacket. And although I have the auto inflating jackets, I also carry offshore jackets that I use in the Gulf or the ocean. I don't want to fall overboard and worry about an auto inflation system malfunction.

Don
 
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Jun 9, 2016
87
catalina 22 Spring City, tn
I am thinking mostly about trying to get the jib dowsed while motoring into the wind. Sometimes the downhaul doesn't play nice, and sometimes the wind wants to blow the sail around and I'd like to tie it down. I suppose I could pull it in through the hatch, but that isn't always a good option depending on weather. I didn't think using the front lip of the mast step was a good idea either, but was wondering if anyone would suggest it.
 
Nov 19, 2008
2,129
Catalina C-22 MK-II Parrish, FL
Jdub tn...... When dousing my jib, I first pull the sheet in tight, then back wind the jib, release the halyard, and pull the down haul line. The sail falls nicely to the center of the foredeck. Now maybe the way you rigged the down haul line is causing a problem? I only attach the line to the top hank. I know some run the line through several hanks, I don't, it's only attached to the top hank. The line has to run right down the forestay so it's pulling the sail down the forestay, not simply pulling it down. In the past I used a small block attached to the rear hole in the stem fitting, but I replaced the rear two machine screws that hold the stem fitting to the deck with a U-bolt, and my down haul line simply routes through it. With the sail falling to the middle of the foredeck, I secure the downhaul line. It simply can't go anywhere but sometimes I will reach on the deck to wrap a sail tie bungee around the jib if it's real windy. But that's very easily done from the hatch, no need to go out on the foredeck. That's what works for me......simple, fast, and best of all, cheap!

Don
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,564
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
Jdub, I feel your pain. We have identical boats, and I have looked at this, and looked at this, and looked at this ... but I haven't decided for certain how to deal with it. My wife is the foredeck "man", and we use hank on headsails, so there is some reason for concern. Setting jacklines aside (I have given up on the concept for now), I have the following thoughts.

One: Figure out a way to add a second lifeline. Move the existing one to the attachment point at the top of the bow pulpit, and run the new one to the lower point, where the existing lifeline attaches now. I would connect the upper lifelines to the bow pulpit with pelican hooks, just like at the stern pulpit, thereby retaining ease of stepping on and off the bow when docking. Lifeline netting (http://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--lifeline-netting--P008_242_003_501) could also be added if desired.

Two: Install a pair of teak grab handles on the cabin, one on each side of the forward hatch. This one is actually the Admiral's "request", so it will probably happen sooner than later. They won't really help her at the bow, but they'll help her get there and back - and I don't believe there's any such thing as too much teak on a sailboat. :)

BTW ... As bad as I wanted one, I gave up on a jib hauldown. I simply never could make it work well enough to earn its place on board. It might be different if I were single handing.
 
Nov 19, 2008
2,129
Catalina C-22 MK-II Parrish, FL
Gene, Good point, I forgot about the new designs having the lines attached to the bottom of the bow pulpit. My MK-II attaches to the top so they are straight across.

Anyway, here is my bow stem fitting with the U-bolt installed replacing the two rear machine screws. It's real handy for attaching my block and tackle to for the mast raising gin pole. Then the boat is rigged, I use it to route the downhaul line through.

Don
STEM FITTING 002 .jpg
 
Jun 9, 2016
87
catalina 22 Spring City, tn
I run a line through a small block and attach below the top hank for the downhaul. I had first used the halyard line I saved when I replaced the lines when I bought the boat. It was too heavy to run free, so on my last sail I replaced with a cheap 1/4 line from wally world and it seemed to work just fine (Also used cheap wally world stainless caribiners attached to the base of the stanchions to route the line back to the cockpit). I haven't tried backwinding the jib. I always try to get a course dead upwind with the motor running slowly ahead, and hope the tiller tamer holds course for a bit. This would be a lot more fun to practice if I had someone else to sail with once in a while! But, I can definitely say my sailing skills have improved this year.
 

AaronD

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Aug 10, 2014
728
Catalina 22 9874 Newberg, OR / Olympia, WA
Responding to the original question about jacklines and tethers. My scenario is a little different, as I always have a crew. But 2/3 of that crew are grade school age. And they love to hang out on the bow, so I've thought a fair bit about keeping everyone onboard. Maybe you'll find this helpful.

Agreed that jacklines run from bow to stern cleats aren't all that helpful - at best, they'd leave you hanging in the water, and possibly fully submerged.

I ran 2 sets of jacklines. The first set is a pair in the cockpit, one on each side, running just under the lip of the seat. So we can clip in before leaving the cabin and access he whole cockpit. I used rock anchors for the aft end (see http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2012/03/bolt-hangers-strong-point-for-small.html - thanks for the suggestion, Drew). The hangers stick out a bit, but they're near our fuel tank, so not a heavily traveled area likely to skin too many knees. For the forward end I used Holt folding padeyes. They're not spec'd to quite the same strength as Wichard's, but for this application, they shouldn't ever see the huge shock load of a 5-8 foot fall from on-deck down into the water. It's much more likely that someone might lean over the side and slip, but that puts them near the end of their tether already and results in a fall of only a foot or two.

The second (and more important) set runs from anchors on the bulkheads (port and starboard) to a single padeye on the bow (in a V shape, if you can visualize that). For these, I used Wichard padeyes, rated for a 4000 lb safe working load, and all anchors are backed up by substantial G10 backing plates (recall that tension on a jackline pulls the two anchors toward one another, just like a pair of rock anchors in opposition. And a fall onto the jackline will apply a frightening load). This routing means that to stay clipped in, we have to go over the cabin top instead of along the side deck (or clip and unclip around the shrouds, which is a royal pain even with double tethers). But with such narrow side decks, I'm just fine with going over the top. It keeps everybody closer to the centerline, and (again) the jackline and short tethers should hold a crew member head-and-shoulders above the water. The downside here is that the jacklines pass over the front hatch, so you can't open the front hatch underway. I haven't found that to be a problem, but you might disagree.

For both sets, I used tubular climbing webbing, tied with water knots. Stitching would be prettier, but I trust my climbing knots more than I trust my sewing.

Tethers: We elected to go ahead and use the regular Kong ISAF tethers (single for the kids and double for the adults). There are good arguments for omitting the quick-release snap shackle (see http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2016/09/tether-shackles-no-quick-release-for-me.html). I decided that sailing a monohull, with a bow wave on the low side, made the quick-release a better bet for us. For the kids, who can't carry knives yet, there might come a time when I want to release them really fast. So, at least at the moment, we have snap shackles. But you might decide otherwise.

That system seems to work well for us. Hope it helps you a bit as you think about your own. Maybe someday I'll manage a full post with pictures; but most of the deck is torn apart right now to rebed hardware, so current pics wouldn't be clear anyway.

Resources for reading:
AAC: Start with https://www.morganscloud.com/2016/09/29/20-things-i-have-learned-about-person-overboard-prevention/ and the various links from there. AAC has done a lot of good thinking about tethers and jackline systems. We don't go offshore, so don't have the same weather issues to think about, but I think kids can be almost as unpredictable as storms.

Drew Frye: I linked one post above. Also, be sure to read http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2016/06/too-long-tethers.html and http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2016/01/a-rant-about-jacklines-and-tethers.html. Follow the links from those to his other posts about jacklines and tethers.
 
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Jun 9, 2016
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catalina 22 Spring City, tn
Thank you Aaron for the post and the links. Lots of good information and food for thought. Just the kind of thing I was looking for. Anyone else?