Replacing head on old boat

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Bonzai

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Jun 23, 2009
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Chris-Craft SailYacht 35 St. Simon's Island, Ga.
Hey guys and gals! I am in the process of reworking head. Questions: Composting toilet or standard set up? Boat has an old electra-san system on board but no holding tank or space for a decent sized one. Am considering the RV type toilet w attached 9.5 gal tank underneath,these can be pumped out normally and Y-valved for overboard discharge, also looking at Airhead "composting" toilet. Prolly gonna just remove and toss the old electra-san as I hear complete NDZ are the upcoming thing. I have researched and read all the old posts in Headmistress...most of which are over 5 yrs old, but need more info on the "composters". There is nowhere to put a holding tank over 10-12 gal. capacity. Thanks!
 
Nov 22, 2011
1,296
Ericson 26-2 San Pedro, CA
I bought a 1984 Ericson 26 last August and the first thing I did was rip out the head and the smelly, awful bladder holding tank. I replaced it with a Thetford 550P MSD porta potty, which I plumbed into the existing system. I'm really happy with this setup. I've had no problems with odor and the capacity is more than I had with my Catalina 30. Although the tank on the Thetford is 5.5 gals. vs. 14 gals. on my Catalina 30, the Thetford actually winds up holding more because it uses far less flush water compared to a conventional head, in which you have to pump a slug of water into the system just to move the waste down the hose into the tank. The porta potty, by contrast, is little more than a glorified bucket, and a quick rinse is all you need to do the job. So, for example, on my single-handed trips to Catalina I could go roughly 5 to 6 days before needing to empty the tank back when I had my C30, but with the porta potty I can easily go one week.

Being plumbed into the system I can simply dump it overboard when I'm 3 miles offshore. Right now I have it plumbed with a Whale manual waste pump but I hope to convert it to a macerator, making overboard discharge a push button affair.

Another nice feature is that there is no doubt about how full the tank is on the porta potty whereas on a conventional holding tank you may not always know, unless you hook up some kind of gauge (which I had on my Catalina 30). Even with the gauge, it's not as accurate as the "visual inspection" of the porta potty--even though the latter may be a tad less appetizing! :) Oh, and the porta potty does actually have a gauge on the front as well.

The only complaint I had was that the mounting hardware that came with the Thetford was totally inadequate. My friend Neil (who sometimes posts here as "Old Skool Neil") came up with a nice design for latching it down and he had a friend of his make it out of stainless. But that was custom for the dimensions of my boat. Still, I would think one could easily fabricate something similar in shape to the plastic pieces they provide and, made out of stainless or aluminum, it would be much more robust than the plastic hold downs that come with the unit.

--Alan Gomes
 
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Dec 2, 1999
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Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Composting is okay but what do you do with the pee. It is notlegal to dump this overboard either.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
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Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Composting has to have power 24/7/12 months. By most accounts it works if you can meet the power demands. You will still be dealing with disposal of urine, but that isn't such a bad thing.
 

Bob J.

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Apr 14, 2009
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Sabre 28 NH
If you're looking for something that'll be fixed, Airhead. Just pour the pee down the sink or cockpit drain.
 
Oct 15, 2009
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catalina 320 Perry Lake
Suggest you read the book "Breaking Seas". This is the story of a man who retrofitted a boat to do long distance cruising. One of his retro items was an Air Head. You can get some first hand info on how it worked for him and his female crew.
 
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