Removing old portlights

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Dec 5, 2004
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Glander Tavana Mexico Beach, Florida
We are redoing our deck and as part of the refurb, we are going to install new ports. The problem comes in in removing the old ports. Ours is a boat that the PO did a lot of the finish work on it. Consequently, the ports are all sealed with 5200. We have a total of ten ports that we are going to remove. Question, what is the best way to break the seal of the 5200? We have thought of using picture hanging wire as a saw, getting a 5 in 1 between the cabin and the old port and chiseling, etc. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
There are label warnings on 5200 concerning

certain deck oils that soften the caulk. Also if you can get just a little room in the joint the a sharp utility knife can be used to start cutting the caulk. The Hyde company Pryzum bar is also a very useful tool, very good steel and a long thin taper with a fairly sharp edge.
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
Port lights

Heat them up with a hair dryer or heat gun. It will soften the 5200 a little and help to break the seal.
 
Jun 5, 2004
36
Catalina 380 Seabrook, TX
Heat Gun

I'm in the process of doing this very project on my Catalina 380 right now. Get a heat gun, it really does the trick on the 5200...
 
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Rick

Rebedding ports

Check out this months issue of Cruising World. Good how to article Cheers Rick
 

Dave Groshong

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Jan 25, 2007
1,867
Catalina 22 Seattle
anti-bond

There is a product named Anti-Bond that will dissolve 5200, it is available in liquid and spray at West Marine and finer establishments.
 
Dec 11, 2005
74
Pearson 30 Wanderer NA
Buy the solvent from 3M that is made

especially for desolving the 5200. 3M 5200 gets alot of bad rap on the forums because most believe that it forms a permanent bond. There are many profesionals that remove hardware on a daily basis that are bedded in 5200. It takes an acquired skill to remove hardware quickly but it is a skill that is (easily?) acquired. If you go the route of using the 5200 solvent, report back to the forum the results of your experience.
 
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Fred

Single edge razor blade

Try a single edge razor blade to cut the 5200. If you can soften it first as reccomended above, do both. The cheap plastic (not metal-it will scratch your cabin side) holders may help to shove the blade in that first little bit.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
If you plan to use razor blades please have 911 on

your speed dial. A much safer and easier to control tool is a four inch wall paper scraper with a long handle and a four inch razor blade. The only thing that single edge razor blades are good for is paint on window glass.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Removing ports...

NEVER USE A RAZOR KNIFE OR TRY TO PRY IT OFF! O'Days have pvc type port and Catalina has Aluminum frames. Trying to cut or pry will bend or break the port frame. You have to do it slow and siliently... With and good braided fishing line or high "E" string from a piano, or a guitar. Take a good braided fishing line or a small diameter wire and carefully work it into the joint between the boat and the port flange( after removing the interior retainer). The idea is to cut through the sealant, what ever was used, so that no prying pressure is put upon the port flange. Work the line/wire, like a crosscut saw, around the port until the sealant has been sliced through. Now the fragile flange no longer plays into acount, unless you did not get it all. Now from the inside, you can persuade it to the exterior. Remember that if too much sealant was applied, that the collar of the port may be attached internally of the exterior face on the cabin. Once the interior frame is off, you should be able to carefully look from the inside into the gap between the window flange and the cabin liner. If you see a build up of caulking, you may have to do what you think will cut it. The plus is that the frame is less fragile than the outer flange. Put pressure on the frame while doling what it takes to move the frame outward. Hopefully you will end up with a whole frame with out damage that you can then clean up and reseal. good luck. It took me three boats to learn this. r.w.landau
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
R.W. He is planning to install new

port lights. Destroying the old frames is of no consequence.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Damaging the boat with a razor knife

will be a problem later. The method I described is still the easiest to remove a port. r.w.landau
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,438
Oday 25 pittsburgh
Ross, I have to say that this is not from me...

This was a method that Justin, that monitored part of this site, recommended. It Works!. That is why I use it. Ask Phil the about the knowledge Justin has about boats. I think that is why Phil had him on the team. r.w.landau ps, I miss Justin ESQ's input!
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
R.W. I agree that the method discribed

Is valid and useful and I don't dismiss it in any way. But in this case preserving the old port lights was not considered important. Therefore removing them expeditiously was the apparent goal. I have gone to great lengths to dismantle things without damage in order that underlying repairs could be made and the saved components be reinstalled.
 
Oct 16, 2006
15
- - Brisbane, CA
Heat Gun

I am also replacing my ports on a 84' Hunter 31. I used a heat gun to heat a puddy knife, It cut the old sealant just fine. I then used the puddy knife on the inside to gently pry the window out. All of them came out with no trouble.
 
Dec 5, 2004
77
Glander Tavana Mexico Beach, Florida
Success

We did it. All ten old port came out without a hitch. Everything is sanded and ready for a prime coat tomorrow. Thanks for all the sugestions.
 
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