Relocating Holding Tank in H30 - 88

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Frank Hand

In order to increase locker storage space in Head I plan to relocate the the holding tank. I would like to install the new tank, macerator, and Y-valve in the lower half of the port cockpit locker (next to the fuel tank).The locker access restricts the tank's end dimensions to 12" x 12" but the locker depth can accomodate about 30" in depth. Interested in experience of others in H-tank relocation in the 30 and or other location options.
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

Keep in mind when choosing a tank location

Total hose feet from head to tank shouldn't be longer than 6-8'...10' is the absolute max. Longer, and it's just about impossible to prevent waste from being left standing the hose to permeate it. The run should be as straight as possible...the more bends, the greater the potential for a clog. Ronco Plastics (link below) is the most likely source for a tank that'll fit...they have more than 100 non-rectangular molds. When you spec the fittings locations, put the inlet and vent fittings toward the centerline of the boat...this prevents waste from running back toward the head or out the vent when heeled. Go with SeaLand "OdorSafe" hose for your 1.5" head discharge and pumpout lines...Shields or Trident #148 for the tank vent and head intake. If you plan to dump the tank at sea, install a y-valve in the pumpout line instead of just a tee or wye fitting. I'll be glad to help you work out the rest of the details.
 
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Frank Hand

Use of solid ABS vs Flexible

Thankyou Peggy for hose lngth info. Do you have any concerns re the use of 11/2" rigid ABS pipe connecting the head to the holding tank/macerater pump to tru hull etc providing it is well braced enroute and not subject to excessive vibration? Rigid Pipe is more economical and odor proof. Also any thoughts on stainless steel tanks (max 15)vs plastics? Thanks for advise. Frank
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

Rigid pipe is problematical

Because it doesn't bend, it should only be used for long straight runs. Every bend means breaking it to insert a radius fitting, and every joint becomes a bump in the line to traps waste. Rigid pipe should NEVER be directly connected to anything else rigid--head, tank, macerator through hull. It must be "soft coupled" with enough hose to act as a shock absorber (more connections/bumps). Otherwise, when the boat flexes, or takes a pounding in heavy seas--or even from a bad wake...bumps the dock hard, etc, the weakest link in the hard-hard connection can crack. That's either gonna be the pipe or a tank fitting. Hard pipe only makes sense on boats that have straight runs of 5' or more. No metal is suitable for waste holding. Urine is so corrosive that it typically eats through a weld at a seam or a fitting within 2-5 years. It takes a bit longer to eat through stainless sheet metal than it takes to eat through aluminum, but I've yet to see a metal tank--stainless OR aluminum--last longer than 10 years (any time the tank has been older than that, it's because it wasn't used). Otoh, a good quality, thick-walled plastic tank will last for decades (the one on my last boat was 16 years old when I bought the boat, and the only part of the sanitation system I didn't replace. It was 21 years old when I sold the boat and still in fine shape). And the good news is, a really good quality from Ronco costs about half what any metal tank does, especially stainless. Bite the bullet and spend the money for SeaLand "OdorSafe" hose. It's just about as "bulletproof" as hard pipe. Yes, at $8/ft, it's expensive...but which is really more expensive--$8/ft once...or $3.50/ft every 2-5 years? Not to mention what a ROTTEN job it is to replace sanitation hoses! Do it right, and you'll have to do it once.
 
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