Recommendation for a hatch or companionway air conditioner

Jul 4, 2015
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Hunter 34 Menominee, MI; Sturgeon Bay WI
Hi;
Can anyone recommend a hatch or companionway they have purchased; will use at night when on shore power just for the main cabin, so approx 5000 BTU and a moveable 40 pounds. I did a search but didn't find a specific unit that someone has used.
Thanks Much.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,276
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
I bought a used 5000 btu window unit and placed in my companionway. I made some foam boards to close off the companionway.

It worked Ok, useless it was REALLY hot. Then it struggled to cool the boat.

I am considering a portable unit (that uses a vent hose to expel the hot air) to see if that works better, and it won’t have to be removed when I want to sail…
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Greg
 

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Jan 29, 2018
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Beneteau 411 Branford
I actually bought a portable unit for my former C30, but never used it. I made an exhaust adapter to fit the hatch just aft of the mast. Was going to bring aboard only when required and lash it to keep it from "wandering" during sailing. This keeps the companionway clear for easy access.
 
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Jul 4, 2015
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Hunter 34 Menominee, MI; Sturgeon Bay WI
I bought a used 5000 btu window unit and placed in my companionway. I made some foam boards to close off the companionway.

It worked Ok, useless it was REALLY hot. Then it struggled to cool the boat.

I am considering a portable unit (that uses a vent hose to expel the hot air) to see if that works better, and it won’t have to be removed when I want to sail…View attachment 202632


Greg
Not thinking by any chance of the Zero Breeze Mark 2??
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,276
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Not thinking by any chance of the Zero Breeze Mark 2??
No brand in contention yet.

Still considering a real marine air conditioner…but my wife calls me a sissy for wanting A/C on a boat…and am too cheap to spend $5k…but still…

For the past 2 years, I have been working from home, which meant I could use my boat as an office…and A/C was really needed….but alas, I have to report to the office mid-March…so maybe I don’t need A/C for now.

Gteg
 
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Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
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Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
No brand in contention yet.

Still considering a real marine air conditioner…but my wife calls me a sissy for wanting A/C on a boat…and am too cheap to spend $5k…but still…

For the past 2 years, I have been working from home, which meant I could use my boat as an office…and A/C was really needed….but alas, I have to report to the office mid-March…so maybe I don’t need A/C for now.

Gteg
You're not a sissy, Greg. I spent a summer in Illinois years ago, and the humidity was brutal. The worst part was at night. I was used to the sea breeze coming around at night in the Boston area. No breeze in Rantoul, Illinois, though. I didn't get a good nights sleep for weeks.
 
May 24, 2004
7,141
CC 30 South Florida
Have used a Cruisair unit to sit on the cabin top hatch and it worked very well. Coincidentally used the unit on a 14 day trip in an h34 from the Cheaspeake Bay to the Long Island Sound and back in the middle of the summer. I have used built in units, window units, portable units. and watercooled unit which came in a Samsonite suitcase. The window units worked well to sleep, but blocked the companionway and pooled condensation in the cockpit. Tried setting up a window unit on the top hatch with a baffle to separate the intake from the output but could not entirely avoid recirculation of the cold air to prematurely cycle the compressor off. The Samsonite suitcase unit worked fairly well but was noisy and cumbersome to set up the water cooling hose. The portable units expel a significant volume of compressor cooling hot air creating a negative pressure in the cabin which brings in hot and humid air from the outside to replace it plus the exhaust hose radiates heat. (not very efficient in a boat environment). The built in units work the best but are usually larger requiring shore power to operate. The Cruisair has an advantage as it can be easilly operated by a portable generator. The one we used was the 5,000 or 6,000 BTU model.
 

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Jul 4, 2015
436
Hunter 34 Menominee, MI; Sturgeon Bay WI
r. The one we used was the 5,000 or 6,000 BTU model.
Per your Recommendation I did a search for Cruisair. It appears Dometic has taken over the company, and on their website this type of device no longer exist. Aware of companionway workarounds and is probably where I'm heading but hate to have to resort to this. Also came across a unit Zero Breeze that can operate on batteries as well and is portable, but unit by itself is 700 - $900! Battery another 3-400, although can plug the unit into non-battery power. It is however lift able and portable, and would work fine to just keep us cool on the main cabin at night.
 
May 24, 2004
7,141
CC 30 South Florida
I would stay away from battery operated units. The technology is not yet there at a reasonable cost. Some RVers are running $12,000 of solar panels and batteries and can only use their high efficiency A/C for 5 to 6 hours a day. Keep checking online as someone must be manufacturing that Cruisaire portable design of A/C unit. I would not be surprised if such a unit nowdays would sell for $500+. A window unit is cheap as you can pick a 5,000 BTU one up for $130 and they work well with the caveat of blocking the companionway. If you get one make sure you get manual witches as the ones with electric push buttons or remote controls are voltage sensitive and can turn themselves off especially when powering with a portable generator. The best aid that you can give A/C in a boat is an awning. It can make difference between trying to cool a boat cabin at 92F degrees as opposed to 115-120F degrees. The awning keeps the direct sun off the cabin top and the air in between the awning and the deck acts as an insulation layer. I understand it is not always practical to deploy a full awning but having something that can be hung up if you are going to be at a location for a few days can help cool the boat better and a lot faster. It also works to get a hose and spray the deck with water. The evaporation process will cool the deck a few degrees.
 
Jul 4, 2015
436
Hunter 34 Menominee, MI; Sturgeon Bay WI
Thanks for your advice. There is an intriguing battery unit that can be run on plug-in power; the Zero Breeze Mark 2. Would give the option of not having to use a generator; either plug in or use a charged up battery. The cost however is a bit crazy . Is also however easily portable and stowed away; a real plus compared to window AC units in the companionway- Just have to run out the vent hoses.
 

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Sep 30, 2008
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Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
I would stay away from battery operated units. The technology is not yet there at a reasonable cost. Some RVers are running $12,000 of solar panels and batteries and can only use their high efficiency A/C for 5 to 6 hours a day. Keep checking online as someone must be manufacturing that Cruisaire portable design of A/C unit. I would not be surprised if such a unit nowdays would sell for $500+. A window unit is cheap as you can pick a 5,000 BTU one up for $130 and they work well with the caveat of blocking the companionway. If you get one make sure you get manual witches as the ones with electric push buttons or remote controls are voltage sensitive and can turn themselves off especially when powering with a portable generator. The best aid that you can give A/C in a boat is an awning. It can make difference between trying to cool a boat cabin at 92F degrees as opposed to 115-120F degrees. The awning keeps the direct sun off the cabin top and the air in between the awning and the deck acts as an insulation layer. I understand it is not always practical to deploy a full awning but having something that can be hung up if you are going to be at a location for a few days can help cool the boat better and a lot faster. It also works to get a hose and spray the deck with water. The evaporation process will cool the deck a few degrees.
:plus:I used a sun shade when we lived aboard one summer in southwest Florida. It was hung on the south facing side of the boat, form stem to stern, and made a big difference, as you said. This was an extreme measure that made the boat livable, but difficult to get the boat ready to sail. The same could be said for the AC unit in the companionway. I later installed a window unit in the companionway that worked well, but made it difficult to carry groceries into the cabin, never mind stepping over it many times in a day.
 
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Feb 21, 2008
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Yaers ago, we used a $99 unit from Home Depot for our 28ft boat. It got cold enough to hang meat. Just make sure it drains out the back.
 
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