Ram Water..question for Peggy

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Ernie Rodriguez

I have noticed the reference to "ram water" as the effect of water pressure on a thru hull located below the water line when underway, possibly forcing water into the holding tank or whatever it is connected to via the hose. Does the ram water effect only apply to thru hull's located forward of amidships or does it occur anywhere on the hull below the waterline? I ask the question because in my Hunter 36 the engine exhaust thru hull is located on the hull about 6 inches from the transom and not on the transom itself, in which case, while underway, if there is a ram water effect, would it not tend to increase the back pressure on the exhaust rather than decrease the pressure, as I have heard pros and cons on this subject. I can visualize a decrease in pressure if the thru hull was located on the transom and underwater while underway, but not sure it is the same when it is not mounted on the transom, as in my case. A simple analogy is the case of the drains that are installed on the transom of dinghies so that the dinghy can be bailed by simply opening the drain stopper located on the transom while underway. But if the drain were located on the hull a short distance from the transom, would the effect be the same? Thanks again for your thoughts on this. Ernie
 
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Ray Bowles

Can I tag in on this question?

I have a thru hull fitting for the water intake supply on the marine head for my H26. The previous owner mounted this thru hull dead center on the hull about 1 foot forward of the rear of the transom. It was also installed without a seacock. I would think I should have seacock for safety but would like to the effect of the ram water possibility on my head. Ernie, please forgive the intrusion on your question. Ray
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

I don't think you have anything to worry about

When an engine is running, water coming out the exhaust would prevent any from being forced up the exhaust hose, and even if the thru-hull is in the transom, there should be a one-way valve in the exhaust hose, to prevent a following sea from flooding the engine when it's not running. But ram water can flood a toilet through an intake aft of midship...I was crewing in a club race on a 355 Beneteau on which the head is in the aft end of the cabin, and the thru-hull right next to the head...we had some good wind that day and had been making hull speed on the tack that kept the thru-hull in the water for about 30 minutes when I below to use the head. I got there just in time to close the seacock and pump out the bowl before it overflowed. The Tartan 38 in the next slip wasn't that lucky...they didn't catch it till one of their kids poked his head out and said, "we don't know what's going on, but water is running out from under the head door." So keep the toilet intake seacock closed. As for your engine, consult your engine manual for the installation schematic...and if you have any concerns about it, talk to the mfr.
 
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