Quickie wax or do nothing - short on time

May 8, 2014
31
sailboat about 37' SE US
My boat is ready to go back in the water after thru hull R & R and bottom paint.
I have one day left to work on topsides.

That is not enough time to do the Mainesail sand/compound/polish/wax process, so is it better to not do anything or throw some wax/polymer on the topsides.

My only concern is protecting the gelcoat. The boat is a 30+ year old Pearson and I don't really care right now about shininess, but I do want to help extend the life of the gelcoat.

I did oxalic-acid-wipe to remove the tanic acid stains and I'd like to protect the gelcoat from further damage/staining. Is it better to leave the oxidized layer on it or do some kind of quick and dirty waxing/protection, if any? Does the gelcoat even need any "protection"?

If I apply wax /polymer, will that interfere with near-future wet sanding?

In about 2 or 3 months I'll sand/compound/polish/wax, but now, I've got to get it back in the water before deep freeze hits now that January has arrived (deep freeze is an occasional 25 degrees F for a few nights, 40s in day). Here on the Gulf Coast it doesn't get all that cold except for Jan/Feb and I want to get the boat back in the water so I don't have to winterize it for a sub-freeze stay in the yard.

Thanks
 

Apex

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Jun 19, 2013
1,212
C&C 30 Elk Rapids
wax is your protective coating....

....and if you read in Maine's post, the buff polish provides a smoother surface, which in turn helps reflect the suns energy more efficiently, which in turn makes the wax protectant last longer.
 
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
Scher,

Just last week, I took my electric pressure washer & with the low pressure nozzle, really cleaned my topsides. The pressure spray wasn't enough to hurt my epoxied paint. I still have to paint the cockpit but, what a difference in the fiberglass. No more off-color or oxidation, now it's ready for a coat of sealer/wax.

Hitting an area, it turned bright white & I couldn't believe the difference between the clean area as opposed to the slight sepia look glass yet to be done. My boat neighbor did the same using my pressure washer. He also did his hull, both sides. All of this done while at the dock. I have the Husky 2000 & use it for everything including my vinyl siding, walkways, car. you name it, two wands w/three different pressure nozzles. It was very affordable & I couldn't justify a gas powered washer (too strong). Using the washer, it really cuts down on cleaning time & elbow grease.

In the next week, I will clean my main in place by hoisting it sections at a time & washing from both sides, I've done this a few times before with NO problems. You'd be surprised how you can control what pressure to use by just keeping a distance from nozzle to whatever your spraying.

So, don't worry about splashing your boat back in in the water, you can do the rest of the cleaning right at the dock. Hell, I may even use it to whiten my teeth.

CR
 
Sep 23, 2009
1,475
O'Day 34-At Last Rock Hall, Md
Capt Ron, sounds like a good idea for cleaning bird cap off the decks. Do you use any cleaning solutions with it or just plain water?
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,832
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
3M Wax/Cleaner

I have a sailboat friend who always uses 3M Wax/Cleaner on his boat
and does it all by hand and his boat is 30 years old and looks so new.
He goes over it after Wax/Cleaner with a 3M wax and looks so good
maybe not that great high gloss look but for a 30 year old boat looks
real good.
Nick
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
This fall with the Mac I removed the oxidation with a Makita 9227 and a black pad using Presta Ultra Cutting Creme. It is aggressive so be careful around edges.

Next I went straight to Presta's Marine UV Creme Wax and really like it. I'd also used it on the Endeavour previously.



http://www.prestaproducts.com/Marine_UV_Creme_Wax-details.aspx

The wax is super easy to use. Wipe on and then off and that is it. Don't even have to use the buffer on it.



It is hard to get a good picture showing the gloss but you can kind of see by the reflection of the ladder. I didn't wax the very bottom of the hull just above the bottom paint as I want to paint a boot strip on when I get to Florida. When I started the boat was a chalky white and the wide black strip was heavily faded. I really thought I was going to probably start by sanding with a very fine paper. The Endeavour hull was even worst looking and I used Presta's Super Cut on it but it is really aggressive so you have to be careful and then go another step before the polish. I dreaded doing this job but it really wasn't bad using a Makita polisher/sander for the oxidation removal (not needed for the wax)...

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Makita-7...FgJh4Xvhz_oAdiMJIaAiZe8P8HAQ#customer_reviews

Sumner
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Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
You might consider using Acrylic coating. If there is a lot of staining or oxydization, you could sand first with 600 then 1200. Appying the acrylic takes a few minutes. It will coat the boat with a water resistant, UV resistant, scuff resistant layer. I have used ProForm floor finish on my boats for a few seasons now, and the results are excellent: tough finish, no yellowing or peeling, water resistant... I will definitely keep using it.

Literally takes a few minutes to wipe on. Use a fine cloth barely dampened with the acrylic. Wipe on all the way around the hull. Keep circling the hull. By the time you finish one coat, it is dry at the beginning. Keep coating til it looks like you want it to look. You can remove the acrylic with a 1200 sandpaper or a scotchbrite and soap.

I just lightly scrub it and recoat before the season. The coating lasts for years.

Thanks,

Andrew
 
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
AG,

Why would you want to sand your gelcoat or fiberglass? Just like with teak, sanding only removes layers/wood. Older boats have already lost alot of their gelcoat. If so, then your taking the color coat down. This is where certain chemicals may come into play. My pressure washer removed my stains so, sanding should be your last choice, not the first.

If you want to strip your wood, Snappy Teak for me works the best. A two-part stripper & your wood will look like sandlewood. A light fine sandpapering to knock down the pulp hairs & to smooth rough areas & you're ready to varnish or oil. Work smart, not hard.

CR
 
Sep 20, 2006
2,952
Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
Scott,


Our boats will never adorn the cover of Home & Garden Magazine. I am of the thought that sailing the boat is the main reason why we have the boat, deck maintenance is what we do for self-pride and/or for folks to say. "Nice boat man, I see you keep it up nicely."

But, if you would rather go by step# 2, that's also fine, because there's never only one way to do something. Choices & opinions differ, that's why I like this site man.

CR
 
May 31, 2004
858
Catalina 28 Branford
I'm like you; I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to get a great shine. I have limited time and I'd rather be sailing. My boat is older and the gelcoat is oxidizing a bit, and my main goal is protect what's left, not make her look new.

I've tried the one step compound/wax products; and I've compounded, then waxed. However, I tried a new method last spring based on a recommendation from someone I met at the Defender Spring Sale. This new method produced the best looking and longest lasting results for me.

I remove last year's wax and dirt with Interlux 202. This is a solvent that wipes on and off easily with paper towels. No fuss, no elbow grease. Takes about 15 minutes to do the entire 23 feet (both sides) of my boat. Then I use a cheapo random orbital buffer to apply a high quality liquid marine wax. I hand buff it off with microfiber towels. Defender had the Scotchguard brand of wax on sale, so I tried that. The shine and waterbeading held up for the entire summer. The entire operation from start to finish took less than two hours.

I am sure that if I used Maine Sail's method (which I printed out a few years ago), my boat would shine like the sun. However, I really don't want to go to all of that trouble myself, nor do I want to pay someone to do it for me. I'm fine with the results I get now.
 
Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
http://hullkote.com/hullkote/

Big boys just rub this on their hulls and go. Pop the boat out and reapply, no bottom paint. This is the anti-foul, go go juice of choice. If only I could afford all the haul outs. I do use it on my sides.
 

Sailm8

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Feb 21, 2008
1,750
Hunter 29.5 Punta Gorda
I would do nothing if you are really going to pull it in 2 months. You are just making more work adding wax now that needs to be removed in 2 months. But then again, I'm basically a lazy SOB and avoid work to go sailing whenever I can.
 
Oct 26, 2012
31
morgan 384 Tarpon springs
HONEST i use ISLAND GIRL PRODUCTS on my Morgan 384 I'm in Clearwater FLA . its clear no buffing lasts a year ( beads water) no buffing all clear liquid. no buffers at all.
See their web site "Island Girl.com " . Its not cheep but i can tell you from real
this stuff works.
The owner is a Chem engine living on a sailboat in Hawaii ! He sure knows what hes doing..
This is not a poly glow type of product at all. !
Every one remarks that Wind Rose looks new she is 1982 ! Lee Nicholas
 
Jan 10, 2015
130
. . Pensacola, FL
I checked out Island Girl. Sounds like it really works well. How is it applied? Do you just wipe it on and that's it?

I'm really interested, especially since there seems to be no buffing. That's the part I really dislike!