I currently have a 1984 H27 with shoal draft. I was thinking of going up to and H33 with 4 1/2. and opinions? I currenty run aground now in the bay. Should I consider cutting it or forgetting it?
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Well...I guess I can't come..
to the Great South Bay. First I'm not sure I can make it under the bridge coming in from the Fire Island Inlet 65'?, and second, if you are running aground with your 27' shoal draft, I surely won't make it drawing 5 1/2feet. Although, if you stick to the channels I don't think you would have any problems.
to the Great South Bay. First I'm not sure I can make it under the bridge coming in from the Fire Island Inlet 65'?, and second, if you are running aground with your 27' shoal draft, I surely won't make it drawing 5 1/2feet. Although, if you stick to the channels I don't think you would have any problems.
4'6" not a big prolem........
Sailing the Great South Bay with a draft of 4'6" is not a big problem. From Nicoll Pt East to Patchogue Bay you should not have a problem if you avoid the flats along the Fire Island shore, the sand bar Northwest of Sailor's Haven and the Flat Northeast of the Watch Hill Channel. From Patchogue East to Smith Pt you would be very restricted. That area tends to shoal. You would have to stay close to the Belport Reach. From Nicoll Pt West to Babylon the depth runs from 10' to 5'. Stay North of the channel markers. To th South there are large flats around Captree Island, Sexton Island, West Fire Island and East Fire Island. After the Babylon-Oak Island Channel the depth ranges from 5' to 4'. Check you tide charts here, and watch your depth gauge. With a draft of 4'6" you could not get into Talisman, Water Island, or Long Cove. At some of the slips at Watch Hill and Atlantique you will bounce on the bottom at low tide. There are many boats sailing the Great South Bay with drafts over 4'6". They are just more restricted. If you are going race the H33 would be a big step up from H27. However, the H27 is ideal for the Great South Bay.
Sailing the Great South Bay with a draft of 4'6" is not a big problem. From Nicoll Pt East to Patchogue Bay you should not have a problem if you avoid the flats along the Fire Island shore, the sand bar Northwest of Sailor's Haven and the Flat Northeast of the Watch Hill Channel. From Patchogue East to Smith Pt you would be very restricted. That area tends to shoal. You would have to stay close to the Belport Reach. From Nicoll Pt West to Babylon the depth runs from 10' to 5'. Stay North of the channel markers. To th South there are large flats around Captree Island, Sexton Island, West Fire Island and East Fire Island. After the Babylon-Oak Island Channel the depth ranges from 5' to 4'. Check you tide charts here, and watch your depth gauge. With a draft of 4'6" you could not get into Talisman, Water Island, or Long Cove. At some of the slips at Watch Hill and Atlantique you will bounce on the bottom at low tide. There are many boats sailing the Great South Bay with drafts over 4'6". They are just more restricted. If you are going race the H33 would be a big step up from H27. However, the H27 is ideal for the Great South Bay.
4'6"???????
The Cherubini Hunter 33 came in either a shaul draft of 4' or deep fin with 5'3". I've never heard of a Cherubini H-33 with a draft of 4'6" unless it is a shaul draft carrying a very heavy load
Don PS: the deep fin H-27 is 4'6"....perhaps you've mixed them up?
The Cherubini Hunter 33 came in either a shaul draft of 4' or deep fin with 5'3". I've never heard of a Cherubini H-33 with a draft of 4'6" unless it is a shaul draft carrying a very heavy load
Don PS: the deep fin H-27 is 4'6"....perhaps you've mixed them up?Thanks ed
Ed thanks for the info. I usually go from Sayville to Watchill, Davis, Talisman. I wanted to find a way to make this work with the 33 I was looking at. Do you think I could make it ? I have seen bigger make it but I never really paid attention to the route they take.Speciffically to HP about his response and the article he posted after this one, I appreciate your input but if you dont know the area I am talking about, you really cant understand. The Great South Bay is a unique situation. The depths on the sandy bottom varries from about 10 to 3 feet yearly due to the current running from inlet to inlet. I have lived there 30 years and no chart or prior knowledge of the area can tell you where you are going to hit on the first week or so of the season. The only good thing is it's just sand or mud. no real worry about dammage. It's a beautiful area. It's just the trade off we make for the place we live.
Ed thanks for the info. I usually go from Sayville to Watchill, Davis, Talisman. I wanted to find a way to make this work with the 33 I was looking at. Do you think I could make it ? I have seen bigger make it but I never really paid attention to the route they take.Speciffically to HP about his response and the article he posted after this one, I appreciate your input but if you dont know the area I am talking about, you really cant understand. The Great South Bay is a unique situation. The depths on the sandy bottom varries from about 10 to 3 feet yearly due to the current running from inlet to inlet. I have lived there 30 years and no chart or prior knowledge of the area can tell you where you are going to hit on the first week or so of the season. The only good thing is it's just sand or mud. no real worry about dammage. It's a beautiful area. It's just the trade off we make for the place we live.
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The draft of the H33 will not be a major problem. You will be more restricted but there is still plenty of bay to sail. I am a member of the SBCC. We have members with drafts over 4 1/2 Feet. Windquest, a 46' Hylas, and CeeJ2 a 42' Whitby both have drafts over 5 feet and go into both Davis Park and Watch Hill. Watch Hill is easy just line up the lights as you enter the channel. There is severe shoaling on either side of the channel, but the channel is well marked, and if you keep the lights lined up you will not have a problem. All the slips east of the snack shop are deep. Going into Davis Park, leave the head buoy for Watch Hill and head straight toward the dock. Check your charts there is severe shoaling both east and west. Last fall some of the bouys were missing, several members bumped the bottom going in. But at high tide 4 1/2 feet is not a problem. Talisman can be entered if you come from the northwest corner of the Barret Beach dock. Split the southernmost bouys marking the entrance to the anchorage and you should have about 5 feet all the way at high tide. But go with caution. Note, with a draft over 4 feet you can not make it up the marked channel. John, if the draft of the H33 is the only thing holding you back.....GO FOR IT. Hope this helps. Ed S/V Mistress
The draft of the H33 will not be a major problem. You will be more restricted but there is still plenty of bay to sail. I am a member of the SBCC. We have members with drafts over 4 1/2 Feet. Windquest, a 46' Hylas, and CeeJ2 a 42' Whitby both have drafts over 5 feet and go into both Davis Park and Watch Hill. Watch Hill is easy just line up the lights as you enter the channel. There is severe shoaling on either side of the channel, but the channel is well marked, and if you keep the lights lined up you will not have a problem. All the slips east of the snack shop are deep. Going into Davis Park, leave the head buoy for Watch Hill and head straight toward the dock. Check your charts there is severe shoaling both east and west. Last fall some of the bouys were missing, several members bumped the bottom going in. But at high tide 4 1/2 feet is not a problem. Talisman can be entered if you come from the northwest corner of the Barret Beach dock. Split the southernmost bouys marking the entrance to the anchorage and you should have about 5 feet all the way at high tide. But go with caution. Note, with a draft over 4 feet you can not make it up the marked channel. John, if the draft of the H33 is the only thing holding you back.....GO FOR IT. Hope this helps. Ed S/V Mistress
H33 FOR SOUTH SHORE!
I'm the proud owner of an 82 H33 (shoal keel (4' draft)) and hail out of Woodmere, N.Y. Although this is our home port, I purchased it in Lindenhurst and transported it to Long Island Yacht Sales in Bayshore for minor servicing. After picking it up, I sailed across Great South Bay out through Fire Island Inlet. Great boat for the south shore. adam. s/v KNOT GUILTY.
I'm the proud owner of an 82 H33 (shoal keel (4' draft)) and hail out of Woodmere, N.Y. Although this is our home port, I purchased it in Lindenhurst and transported it to Long Island Yacht Sales in Bayshore for minor servicing. After picking it up, I sailed across Great South Bay out through Fire Island Inlet. Great boat for the south shore. adam. s/v KNOT GUILTY.
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