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Craig

I have a question about the tightness of the shrouds. Our 1987 34 hunter is new to us this yr. so alot of experimentation going on. Last friday a friend am I sailed down the river about 5 miles for lunch. It was kind of windy, I suspect 15-20 and somethings gusting more. I saw the speed top out at 7 going right downwind to the restaurant. Coming back, we put up the full main and about 3/4 of the head sail. My question is how loose should the shrouds be on the side the head sail is on? My shrouds were flopping in the wind and had no tension on them. Of course the other side was tighter than heck. Is this right or am I too loose? My comment is about putting pins in the turnbuckles. I have not yet done that as I am uncertain on the tension but let me tell you that one turnbuckle allmost undid itself in two hours of sailing. Learned my lesson before any damage was done. Thanks.
 
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Milton

rigging

My recommendation is to get a rigger and let them adjust the rig. If you tighten the rig too much it will collapse the cabin top and the compression post, very common on the H34. The rig should be reasonably tight when on the wind with some slackness on the leward side. Be careful about how much sail you put out above 15 MPH after all it is a Hunter.
 
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Derek Rowell

H34 Rig tension...

I've always had my yard tension the H34 rig each spring. In 16 years I have never seen any slackness in the leeward shrouds even above 20 knots. I suspect you may have things too loose (or mine is too tight!). Tuning that B&R rig seems to be an art! I have the instructions but I've never played with it - too complicated for my little brain. Derek
 
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Allan Hadad

Rigging Tension

Hopefully this response will get through. I've had several failures today for some reason. My manual indicates that the leeward shrouds should not be slack when close hauled in 10-12 knots of wind. That is how I set my H34 up and it is working fine. First step was to insure that the mast was vertical. I adjusted my turnbuckles so the same amount of thread was showing inside the barrels on both sides of the boat. I then hauled the end of a 100' tape measure up with the main halyard. I measured to a common point on the toerail. I needed to adjust (probably because the shrouds were not exactly the same length from side to side) by alternately tightening and loosening one side and the other until the mast was vertical. Then I went sailing in no more than 10 knots. In my case, the rigging was slack. I tighened the loose shrouds no more than a couple of turns at a time. I tacked over and tightened the opposite turnbuckles exactly the same amount. That way the mast stayed vertical. I kept going back and forth until the rigging was just tight under those conditions. This technique also improved my forestay tension since the shrouds are behind the mast. The backstay was now loose, so I evenly tightened the split backstay only enough to take out the slack. I used cotter rings in the turnbuckles. I twirl them around one side of the turnbuckle barrel and through the hole in the threaded rod. They don't catch on anything and I don't tape them so I can keep them rinsed with fresh water and inspect them periodically. It seems to sail fine with much less weatherhelm when it gets really windy. Of course on this boat, you still have to reef early. Now, if you do this and the rigging gets loose again right away, then you have to check for mast step compression. Check out the Foto Forum for details on that. Regards, Allan "Alchemie" SF Bay (where the wind occasionally blows)
 
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Craig

Thanks for your help

Thanks for your help. We are going down tomm. and I will check into it further. The winds are suppose to be 10-15 so it should be a much better day. It was really blowing and kindof scared me for the first 10 minutes. Didnt know what the boat would do.I know about reefing at 15 but kindof ignored that but wont again, especially with my wife aboard or I wont have her very long.We are in a 600 boat marina on the mississippii river and dont have a yard or repair shop anywhere so Alan thanks for your detailed explanation and I will incorporate into my plans. My tube going thru the hull was full of caulk when I got the boat this spring and I have seen no indication of any post problems. I am hopeful THAT is not the problem. Thanks and have a great weekend. shav on the river.
 
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