Propane heater

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Bonzai

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Jun 23, 2009
250
Chris-Craft SailYacht 35 St. Simon's Island, Ga.
Recently I have been looking for a cabin heater. I am planning a trip up the East Coast this spring/summer and anticipate morning chill that the oil lamps may not be able to defeat. After experiencing the usual sticker shock (one I was looking at uses your diesel from tanks and doubles as a cooktop) I began figuring how to get a ck that size past the Admiral. Last week I was in Lowe's and saw a small camping propane heater that uses Coleman bottled or 20 lb tanks. Says safe for indoor use. Tried it night before last on boat as aft cabin heat w o/s temps high 30s. Friggin thing is amazing!The top and back of unit stayed cool to the touch. No sign of headache. Kept small cabin bearable w only the pilot light burning! Turned it on low for a few min before exiting sleeping bag and cabin was toasty! Anyone had more experience with these? I am thinking of getting another for the forward cabin. They cost aound $70 I think it was. Beat the crap out of the prices I was looking at before. Mr. Heater 9000 BTU . My propane tanks are stored on deck in open so seemed like a perfect solution. Unbelievable amt of heat on low and high settings. Thought this might benefit someone else looking for good heat for a small boat.
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
the mr heaters do put out an amazing amount of heat and are rated for indoor use. a lot of people use them, including me.
the downside to these unvented heaters, such as any catalytic heater, is the amount of moisture that is created by the combustion of the fuel.....
sometimes there is no room/budget for options, but nothing will beat a direct or indirect vented heater for good dry heat if you have the room to install one.....
 
Sep 5, 2007
689
MacGregor 26X Rochester
But just since it seems like it needs saying, I would never sleep with an unvented fossil fuel heater burning in a tiny space like a small boat. I don't think unvented natural gas or LPG heaters are legal in bedrooms in houses, either. Just sayin'.
 
Jun 8, 2004
2,925
Catalina 320 Dana Point
The Mr. Heater works well here and I've used it at temps down to 42 F. (Freakin' cold for here). Last night I ordered a smaller model that screws directly on the bottle (1 lb) and is rated at 3800 BTU, also from Mr. Heater with the oxygen sensor. Smaller footprint and we rarely run the other one on high.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Mr Heater

I have used on for a few years now. They have a low oxygen sensor/cutoff in them, and work well. Never had a problem.
 
Jun 20, 2011
18
Catalina C-18 Denver
I use one with great success and have a CO detector in the boat and will not light heater until I have checked the CO detector with the test button. I used to use Jack Daniels to stay warm but now I wake up feeling much better :)
 

Bonzai

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Jun 23, 2009
250
Chris-Craft SailYacht 35 St. Simon's Island, Ga.
Re: Mr Heater

I am sure that considering the heat output of this lil bugger there will always be a couple portlights cracked open when even on low setting. Also have CO1 sensors onboard and a couple large snorkels. Will test this spring and report any problems, assuming I survive them....
 
Mar 20, 2012
3,983
Cal 34-III, MacGregor 25 Salem, Oregon
But just since it seems like it needs saying, I would never sleep with an unvented fossil fuel heater burning in a tiny space like a small boat. I don't think unvented natural gas or LPG heaters are legal in bedrooms in houses, either. Just sayin'.
I agree.....
to clarify, the mr buddy heater is a catalytic heater that is designed to be used indoors safely, BUT, the safe usage of a catalytic heat REQUIRES adequate ventilation....
with the proper ventilation it will burn without any dangerously measurable CO output, but when the enviroment becomes oxygen deficient, it CANNOT catalyze properly and will create a normally large amount of CO gas very quickly....

read the Manual that comes with the heater and be safer.....
 
May 27, 2012
1,152
Oday 222 Beaver Lake, Arkansas
Always consider that all heaters and stoves use up available oxygen and you must have ventilation. As well as CO levels, you need to worry about O2, too. A CO monitor wont warn you of low O2 levels.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,048
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Like "Nice and Easy" I've used one a couple of years now and I really like it. They are "approved" for indoor use (in places that allow unvented ) because they have a feature that kills the flame if the oxygen gets too low. The instructions do tell you that you need a minimum of 9 square inches of open vent. It has a tip-over switch to shut it off if bumped or tipped. I don't use it when asleep, nor do I use it when underway..
I have an unvented natural gas fireplace at home that uses the same low oxygen shutoff technology.. it is an excellent room heater .. Both the Mr. Heater and my home one that is unvented produce a bunch of moisture.. The one at home isn't a problem since the vented central heater really dries out stuff... but on the boat the moisture and condensation can be a problem.
My grandmother's house had ventless space heaters so we all knew how to use them safely.
EDIT: http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24
My carbon monoxide alarm has never shown a reading (digital read-out in PPM) when the heater has been operating in the boat..
 
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Feb 12, 2013
97
C&C 35 MKIII k/c Rock Creek, Chesapeake
Used it have for two years. We have the Coleman with a fan. UPgraded Black cat version which also works fine. Keep the cabin ventilated. Moisture can be issue, but we dont run it when sleeping. Keeps are cabin toasty when anchored in the early spring late fall and takes the chill of in on the AM. I crawl out from onder the down comforter and fire it up a half hour before I want to get up.

I dont like refilling the 1 lb bombs as the needle valve sometime dont reseat expecially when run hard to the point the bottle feels frozen. Safer to connect a hose from propane tank. I do the sa,e for ,y <agma Grill. I run both off the spare propane bottle,

Dave
 
Sep 20, 2006
2,952
Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Also have CO1 sensors onboard and a couple large snorkels.

I pictured you sitting in your cabin with long scuba snorkels leading up to an overhead hatch...... :D just my CDN warped sense of humour....
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,701
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
While these types of heaters can be used safely they often are not.

Next to portable generators, LP fueled portable heaters (a whole other subject for Darwin awards) are one of the highest number of deaths, by category, according to the CPSC due to CO poisoning.

One of the main dangers of propane CO poisionings is that when propane runs low on oxygen, for combustion, you usually don't know it. With wood, coal, diesel etc. the appliance will become sooty and you'll smell the poor combustion. With LP gas you don't notice it until it is too late and you don't wake up.

Also these heaters do not meet any of the marine safety standards for boats which makes using them technically against any of the accepted marine safety standards.

I have and do use them but I am very, very careful in their use.

These are my own rules for safe use:

#1 Propane bottles are only every removed and installed ABOVE DECK.

#2 Heater is ALWAYS lit and pre-heated above deck then carefully placed where it goes. Our heater is never, ever lit below deck. I ensure its operation above deck and only move it below when the ceramic has totally pre-heated.

#3 NEVER sleep with these units running

#4 Boat MUST be ventilated while heater is in use.

#5 NEVER place heater near combustibles or where it could tip over.

#6 Use non-slip pad under the heater

#7 ALWAYS use a CO and smoke detector with these heaters.

#8 ALWAYS be sure the LPG safety alarm is working (I test ours about three times per season).

#9 Assign only ONE individual to the operation and use of the heater, perhaps two if both well trained in lighting and extinguishing.

#10 ALWAYS pay attention to the flame and "noise" of the heater and shut it OFF before it runs out of LP.

#11 Always use fresh new propane bottles. I DO NOT believe in refilling the 1 pounders. I have seen far to many of them leak once disconnected. In my opinion these are one time use valves. We now leave our BBQ grill regulator attached to the bottle & grill between uses due to leaking 1 pounders after unscrewing them. There is NO good place on a boat for a leaking propane bottle.... Once we pierce the bottle it gets used and then recycled. If leaking when removed from the grill or a heater it gets immediately tossed into the dinghy.


We no longer use a Mr. Buddy on-board as we simply don't feel they are a safe enough appliance for our family. They can work great, but do make the boat rather moist, a nasty feature of a non-sealed combustion appliance...

Please, be very careful in their use...
 
May 4, 2005
4,062
Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
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I dont like refilling the 1 lb bombs as the needle valve sometime dont reseat expecially when run hard to the point the bottle feels frozen.
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I've had more than one leak on me, after initial use, and disconnect
 
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