problems w/ self furling jib

Sep 12, 2010
2
ODay 192 Lincoln
I have an O'Day 192 with the OEM self-furling mecanism. If winds go over 10 -12 it jams. Have read this is a common occurance .. any O'Day 192 owners out there have suggestions for correcting this problem .. differnt mecanism; eliminate self-furling optrion; other ideas?
Thanks in advance
 

Kestle

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Jun 12, 2011
702
MacGregor 25 San Pedro
Make sure the line hits the drum at a 90 degree angle.

Jeff
 
Sep 12, 2010
2
ODay 192 Lincoln
I'll have to check to be sure, but the line is OEM (previous owner never used th esmall jib so it just sat in the back in the cabin) and I suspect just traditional line ... no core
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
Jim, I hate to say it, but that Schaefer furler on the 192 is pretty much despised. I couldn't keep my luff tight, so I got rid of it. Good thing I had a hank on jib that came with the boat. Then again, my new halyards could have helped as well, less stretch with Vectran core. Which is total overkill on our boats.

You might take it apart and see if it's binding at all, or if there's slop that's causing the furling line to get caught between the drum and the housing. Make sure the furling line is led along the stanchion bases, or is it down the deck, through the bullseye fairlead, to make sure there's a good angle entering the drum.

If your old Schaefer unit is whupped, but you like a wire luff furler (I do not) you could check out a Selden or Harken small boat furler to replace it. http://www.apsltd.com/c-1070-smallboatfurlingsystems.aspx

Perhaps your jib is old, and needs replacement? In that case, consider a 135% genoa, and get a Schaefer Snap Furl or CDI Flexible Furler for it. But then you have to figure where to put genoa track to allow for reefing. Probably down the side decks. I don't think track along the cabin top will allow for 3 fairlead positions on a 135% (at full, 100% and 90% storm positions), and now you've got a wider sheeting angle for the genoa if you move from the cabin top to the side deck, so you might suffer pointing. Then again, I know people who have a 135% on a reefing furler on the 192.

I mentioned that I do not like the wire luff furler. The main reason is I couldn't get adequate luff tension, and it's all or nothing - no furling. Also, the jib didn't furl evenly or tightly, so I worried about it blowing open if stored hoisted and furled. After reading other's problem with the old Schaefer unit (probably in Small Craft Advisor's review of the 192 last year) I chucked mine. Instead, I rigged a downhaul line, which allows me to stand in the companionway, and pull the hank on jib down. Once down, and the downhaul secured, I can cleat both jib sheets, and the jib stays well controlled on the foredeck until I'm ready to unhank it, though I now have a nice jib bag. I used a piece of grey exterior PVC electrical conduit about 2" long, cut a slit in it to fit it over the forestay, and tied a 3/16" line to it. Generally, this PVC "car" goes between the head hank and the next one down, and runs through a hank about 1/2 way down the luff, so that it doesn't sag off and flap. I run the downhaul through small bullet block shackled to the Schaefer drum U bolt on the deck, and back through the bullseye on the deck to the horn cleat on the side of the house, down the port side because the jib halyard cleats on the port side of the mast. It gets a little crowded with the cam cleat on the cabin side which is for the asym tack line, but that's how I got the boat. Works pretty well, and it's easier than having to run up to the foredeck. (Luckily for me our lake doesn't see conditions - if it did, I'd rely on the downhaul far more…)

Hope this helps.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Brain pretty much called this. Structural furlers, which wrap the sail around a wire, use the inherent stiffness of the luff to furl. Sadly the luff typically does not have much stiffness, so it stops working well in any kind of breeze. I've used what is regarded as the 'gold standard' of structural furlers (the Facnor STG) on both Beneteau First Class 7.5 and Flying Tiger 30 where it was standard equipment, and it still sucked in a breeze, even with a good stiff sail. I can only image how poor an old Schaefer unit would do with an older dacron sail!

The boat is small. The smallest CDI would work well if you don't want to go with just hanks.