Portapotties. (portapottys?)

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Roger

I am returning to sailing after a long hiatus, and moving up from daysailers to a small, used cruiser. I am very interested in buying a Catalina 27, but the marine head and holding tank were removed and replaced with a portapotty. The broker ways this is good, given the regulatory climate (?) Hmmm.. and I don't know if it is 'pumpable' And is the odor problme worse with a portapotty ? The price of the boat is quite good- should I be Should I walk away? Thanks for any advice.
 
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david lewis

Catalina 27

I don't recommend the portapotty but don't rule out the boat if it is in good condition and works for you. A marine head with holding tank has 2 options for emptying. A portapotty only has one. The marine head does not have you filling it and getting splashed by it and if you are 3 miles out at sea and need to empty it you can easily but the portapotty requires you to wrestle 5 or 6 gallons (weight about 40 to 50 pounds) in a heavy sea to pour it over the rail and all over your boat. I used one for 15 years and they stink in comparison to a marine head!!!!! i DON'T CARE WHAT PEGGY SAYS to the contrary!!!! My experience was I used a 5 gallon bucket with latching lid to empty the contents of the portapotty and give me more range. It was easier to handle and allowed waste to be stored when in an area of no discharge. Most harbors now have pump out boats so the marine head problem has a good solution. As far as cost figure 150 bucks for the head, 100 bucks for the macerator, if the through hull is in good condition with a seacock then hoses and a y valve might be another 150 bucks. So for 400 bucks you can fix it and probably a day of your time screwing around with it. at least the portapotty can be used until you get around to the rest of it. But the dealer is just jerking you around with his comment that it is preferable!!!!
 
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Peggie Hall/Head Mistress

Certainly no reason to walk away!

If the portapotty is a pumpable model, no reason why you shouldn't keep it. If it's not, you can replace it with one that is for about $125--or with whatever you want for whatever you want to spend. Steve is wrong that a portapotty can only be emptied one way...the tank in the pumpable models are no different from any other holding tanks--they're just part of a self-contained unit--and are pumped out like any holding tank. And if you can install a v-valve and macerator or manual pump in a holding tankpumpout line to allow dumping at sea beyond the "3 mile limit," there's certainly no reason why it can't be done in the pumpout line from a pumpable portapotty. As for odor, it's a holding tank...it has the same odor control issues--and cures--that exist in all holding tanks. At least you don't also have to deal with odor caused by stagnant seawater trapped in the head intake--a common problem for owners of both manual and electric marine toilets. So the toilet shouldn't have anything to do with whether you buy the boat--although the price of replacing whatever is there with what you want can certainly become a bargaining chip. But there could be plenty of other "deal breaking"--or at least costly--problems...so make any offer "subject to survey" and hire the best surveyor you can find. You'll have to get at least a "condition and value" survey--which costs about half as much as full pre-pruchase survey--to insure or finance the boat anyway...and rarely does a complete pre-purchase survey fail to turn up enough problems--even minor ones--that seller either has to correct, or come off the price enough to cover the cost of correcting 'em, to cover the cost of the survey.
 
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john renfro

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if you like the boat, tell the seller that you truly need a built in head and will he nock of $400.00 for you. if not buy the boat if all else is good. it could take a year to find somthing to sail. john
 
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