I have an '81 that was kind of in disarray interior wise upon purchase, and I am missing the part that I imagine would fold out to make the Port settee a full size berth, I was thinking of cutting some plywood and using a piano hinge to fold out when the table is stored...what is the original like?
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Jim Logan
port settee berth
On my 1980 H33 it is just a piece of painted plywood (1/2"?)attached to the settee with a piano hinge, it has a barrel bolt at each end, that fit into holes in the hanging locker/drawer area to port of the v berth entrance, and in the sink cabinet to aft. Fold it out, put the barrel bolts in the holes, and you are set. However, the cushions will all separate on you if you don't work something out to keep them together. I think the board can also be used as a lee board, since on mine there are two sets of holes. The swing out table must be attached to the mast to use them, though.
On my 1980 H33 it is just a piece of painted plywood (1/2"?)attached to the settee with a piano hinge, it has a barrel bolt at each end, that fit into holes in the hanging locker/drawer area to port of the v berth entrance, and in the sink cabinet to aft. Fold it out, put the barrel bolts in the holes, and you are set. However, the cushions will all separate on you if you don't work something out to keep them together. I think the board can also be used as a lee board, since on mine there are two sets of holes. The swing out table must be attached to the mast to use them, though.
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Greg Sampson
while I have you..
Jim, what about the rear berth? Looks like there is some piece that would go in that section as well, more plywood or is it similar to the forward V with cushion attached? Thanks for the other info by the way, Greg
Jim, what about the rear berth? Looks like there is some piece that would go in that section as well, more plywood or is it similar to the forward V with cushion attached? Thanks for the other info by the way, Greg
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Mark Mowery
Port setee berth
My 1980 H33 is set up exactly as you describe with a 1/2" plywood foldout panel and piano hinge. There's a small block fastened to the front side of the galley sink cabinet and one near the two drawers by the v-berth where the folded out panel rests. When in the folded out position you'll likely need a temporary prop somewhere in the center as it's a little flimsy. There should also be some shallow drilled holes in the cabinetry directly above the two blocks I mentioned earlier. There's a barrel bolt on each end of the fold out panel, so you can unfold it to an upright position, lock the barrel bolts in the holes, and use it as a leeboard.
My 1980 H33 is set up exactly as you describe with a 1/2" plywood foldout panel and piano hinge. There's a small block fastened to the front side of the galley sink cabinet and one near the two drawers by the v-berth where the folded out panel rests. When in the folded out position you'll likely need a temporary prop somewhere in the center as it's a little flimsy. There should also be some shallow drilled holes in the cabinetry directly above the two blocks I mentioned earlier. There's a barrel bolt on each end of the fold out panel, so you can unfold it to an upright position, lock the barrel bolts in the holes, and use it as a leeboard.
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Tony Zambella
You want mine ?
I hate the dam thing. It gets in the way of many things: Seacocks, transducers and of course the table You want it with hinge ?
I hate the dam thing. It gets in the way of many things: Seacocks, transducers and of course the table You want it with hinge ?
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Greg Sampson
yeah I guess Tony....
you kind of got me wondering if it is worth it, but I definately wouldn't mind checking out your boat to try to get an idea of one that is fully put together should look like, if that is ok. Shoot me an email gregg.sampson@lfr.com, and thanks in advance. Greg
you kind of got me wondering if it is worth it, but I definately wouldn't mind checking out your boat to try to get an idea of one that is fully put together should look like, if that is ok. Shoot me an email gregg.sampson@lfr.com, and thanks in advance. Greg
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Sam Lust
Hey Tony -----
Why not move the seacock and senders? I moved the sink drain seacock to; who would have thought of it ??? Under the sink! Immeasurably more convenient. Transducers? Moved them to way forward in the V-berth just aft of the water tank. This is actualy the second move -- didn't like the first place I put them. In the shalow wate I'm in forward makes sense. Three 2" holes left in the bottom? no big deal. Epoxy and biaxial fiberglass as explained in West System "How To" materials. Makes the lee board/berth extension usable and beats crying and moanung about it. (I put the small cushions against the hull. Keeps things from moving around.)
Why not move the seacock and senders? I moved the sink drain seacock to; who would have thought of it ??? Under the sink! Immeasurably more convenient. Transducers? Moved them to way forward in the V-berth just aft of the water tank. This is actualy the second move -- didn't like the first place I put them. In the shalow wate I'm in forward makes sense. Three 2" holes left in the bottom? no big deal. Epoxy and biaxial fiberglass as explained in West System "How To" materials. Makes the lee board/berth extension usable and beats crying and moanung about it. (I put the small cushions against the hull. Keeps things from moving around.)
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Greg Sampson
Sam, transducer question...
I was thinking of putting my depth sounder in the same place (portside, aft of water hold) and was concerned that the angle would be greater than the 10% suggested by raytheon. What correction factor is in use?
I was thinking of putting my depth sounder in the same place (portside, aft of water hold) and was concerned that the angle would be greater than the 10% suggested by raytheon. What correction factor is in use?
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Bill Arneson
Port settee birth on h33
Greg, I live in Middleboro,boat is in Padanaram not to far from you.You are welcome to come down and take a look. Bill
Greg, I live in Middleboro,boat is in Padanaram not to far from you.You are welcome to come down and take a look. Bill
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Greg Sampson
Thanks Bill....
that would be great, shoot me an email the next weekend you will be heading down, I am going in the water on the 30th. gregg.sampson@lfr.com Greg
that would be great, shoot me an email the next weekend you will be heading down, I am going in the water on the 30th. gregg.sampson@lfr.com Greg
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Steve Weinstein
You're right on target!
You're proposal is exactly how the original is. A simple piece of plywood, attached with a piano hinge. If you move forward with the project take to heart the other responses about the shortcomings of the system. Yes, it makes a great lee board but the table must be swung out and attached to the mast in order to secure the plywood with the barrel boats. You'll have to get the table onto the mast anytime you want to flip out the extension. I don't think you'll need a center support if you use it to extend that berth into a double. It's not that flimsy. But be aware that in order to access the two lockers - and you'll have to since that's where the thru-hulls are for the depth and speedo transducers live, and the thru-hull for the sink drain - you'll have to swing the table out and flip out the extension.
You're proposal is exactly how the original is. A simple piece of plywood, attached with a piano hinge. If you move forward with the project take to heart the other responses about the shortcomings of the system. Yes, it makes a great lee board but the table must be swung out and attached to the mast in order to secure the plywood with the barrel boats. You'll have to get the table onto the mast anytime you want to flip out the extension. I don't think you'll need a center support if you use it to extend that berth into a double. It's not that flimsy. But be aware that in order to access the two lockers - and you'll have to since that's where the thru-hulls are for the depth and speedo transducers live, and the thru-hull for the sink drain - you'll have to swing the table out and flip out the extension.
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Steve Weinstein
Nav Berth is like the v-berth
Right again. There is - or should have been when you got the boat - an cushioned insert indentical, except for shape, to the insert for the v-berth. The downside is that with that insert in place it's a real pain in the ass to access the breaker panels. Which is why I moved my breaker panels up to the glass bulkhead/liner behind the cockpit. Standing at the galley, it's now at shoulder height just aft of the galley. A major project but I'm extremely glad I did it. Now all breakers are instantly viewable and easy to flip on or off without getting down on my knees.
Right again. There is - or should have been when you got the boat - an cushioned insert indentical, except for shape, to the insert for the v-berth. The downside is that with that insert in place it's a real pain in the ass to access the breaker panels. Which is why I moved my breaker panels up to the glass bulkhead/liner behind the cockpit. Standing at the galley, it's now at shoulder height just aft of the galley. A major project but I'm extremely glad I did it. Now all breakers are instantly viewable and easy to flip on or off without getting down on my knees.
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Ken Palmer
My speedo transducer not there.
My 1981 H33 has the speedo transducer mounted in the side-wall of the bilge. I wonder if these were after-market items installed by the Dealers or owners. I agree about the AC/DC Power panel. I am tired of standing on my head and needing a flashlight to find a switch after the sun goes down. Sounds like a good project for those non-sailing weekends. Ken Palmer, S/V Liberty
My 1981 H33 has the speedo transducer mounted in the side-wall of the bilge. I wonder if these were after-market items installed by the Dealers or owners. I agree about the AC/DC Power panel. I am tired of standing on my head and needing a flashlight to find a switch after the sun goes down. Sounds like a good project for those non-sailing weekends. Ken Palmer, S/V Liberty
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