Plywood or King Starboard for semi-structural panel

Feb 4, 2012
95
LM 28 Pilot House Sloop Pilothouse Campobello Island & Fredericton, NB
Ahoy:

A question on using 1/4 plywood inside a panel like they did at the factory 30 years ago or changing to 1/4 King Starboard plastic.

The situation;
An outer fiberglass panel of the pilothouse was molded over a piece of 1/4 plywood roughly 18 x 13 inches but over time the plywood was subjected to water and rotted.

So would you:
a) Replace the rotted ¼ inch plywood with plywood sealed with epoxy and then be more vigilant with sealant and the maintenance of the sealant?

b) Replace the rotted ¼ inch plywood with 1/4 inch King Starboard at greater expense for materials and adhesives and be happy that if/when water does get inside the panel the starboard will not rot which weakens the hold of the wood screws in the plywood holding the panel tight and lets in more water over time ?

I would like to install a handrail onto the outer side of the panel so would ¼ inch King Starboard be a good enough backing?

Attached are a few pics and below is the background

The Back Story
We picked up the LM28 in October 2012 and noticed a small 5-inch square of rotted wood inside the pilothouse on the starboard side. There was some related water staining

We could never trace down the exact point of egress but logic said that a starboard wall panel of the pilothouse was implicated.

I was able to remove the outer side of the panel and the internal ¼ inch plywood and trim stick to receive screws had rotted into dust and mush.

I’m still not sure of where exactly it was leaking into the pilothouse but it seem a leading edge of the panel allowed water behind he panel and once the wood started to rot there was too much flexibility for sealants to be effective over the long term. See example on port side of $20 Cdn slid into space between panel and window.


Dino
 

Attachments

Last edited:
Jan 4, 2006
7,195
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
b) Replace the rotted ¼ inch plywood with 1/4 inch King Starboard at greater expense for materials and adhesives and be happy that if/when water does get inside the panel the starboard will not rot which weakens the hold of the wood screws in the plywood holding the panel tight and lets in more water over time ?
Difficult to say without being there but I wouldn't recommend using Starboard as the core as no adhesive will stick to it. Any chance of using perhaps 1/2" Starboard alone for the panel and dispence with the covering ?
 

Gunni

.
Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
1/4 or 6mm marine ply laminated both sides with glass cloth and epoxy is an amazingly strong structural composite, easily capable of anchoring handrails. You could submerge it and it would not rot. And it would be attractive.
 
Feb 4, 2012
95
LM 28 Pilot House Sloop Pilothouse Campobello Island & Fredericton, NB
Difficult to say without being there but I wouldn't recommend using Starboard as the core as no adhesive will stick to it. Any chance of using perhaps 1/2" Starboard alone for the panel and dispence with the covering ?
Ralph,

I'm looking into that.

I am only guessing at the original configuration inside the panel. I'm not 100 percent sure what is needed to mate against the inner wall of the pilot house

Thanks
 
Feb 4, 2012
95
LM 28 Pilot House Sloop Pilothouse Campobello Island & Fredericton, NB
1/4 or 6mm marine ply laminated both sides with glass cloth and epoxy is an amazingly strong structural composite, easily capable of anchoring handrails. You could submerge it and it would not rot. And it would be attractive.
Gunni,

Not sure my workmanship skills are good enough. I do like the strenghth of the plywood

Thanks

Dino
 

Gunni

.
Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Gunni,

Not sure my workmanship skills are good enough. I do like the strenghth of the plywood

Thanks

Dino
This is a good beginner project Dino. You can do it on a bench, covered by a few sheets of waxed paper. Seal the ply with epoxy, then a layer of cloth wetted-out and smoothed with a body putty blade, and then build up the epoxy to give you a smooth, transparent gloss finish. If exposed, you finish with marine varnish for UV protection. One side glassed is strong, both sides glassed and it is super strong.
 

Clark

.
Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
This is a good beginner project Dino. You can do it on a bench, covered by a few sheets of waxed paper. Seal the ply with epoxy, then a layer of cloth wetted-out and smoothed with a body putty blade, and then build up the epoxy to give you a smooth, transparent gloss finish. If exposed, you finish with marine varnish for UV protection. One side glassed is strong, both sides glassed and it is super strong.
And if fasteners and hardware are bedded properly, will last a lot longer than the owner. :)