Hi There My wife and I are planing on taking our Mac 26d to California this summer and sailing the coast for two weeks. We will start out of Long Beach and do the Catalina run and then perhaps sout to San Diego or north to ??? Any suggestions as to where to put in each night as we run the coast. Any suggestions on what charts to bring. Any info on overnight moorings and costs/ If youv'e done this ...you know what we need. Much thanks Marty MisSugas Mac26d
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I see a lot of comments regarding trips to Catalina. I bet that would be a memorable trip. According to Mac Forums...it sems a lot of Macs like that sailing area. Some go in groups, as well as individually. Happy Sailing to you and yours...
I see a lot of comments regarding trips to Catalina. I bet that would be a memorable trip. According to Mac Forums...it sems a lot of Macs like that sailing area. Some go in groups, as well as individually. Happy Sailing to you and yours...
Catalina
Get the behind the ear patches till you get used to the swells. Quite a bit different than Lake Pleasant LOL
Get the behind the ear patches till you get used to the swells. Quite a bit different than Lake Pleasant LOL
Best place to sail
You’ve picked one of the best places to sail in the world. I sail out of Oceanside, south of Long Beach. I go to Catalina two or three times a year. If you are looking for good places to stay south of Long Beach, I would make the following recommendations. First stop from Catalina, Dana Point. It has free anchorage with plenty places to eat within walking distance. Next stop Mission Bay. Again free anchorage and you can get on the bus and go anywhere in San Diego from there. Go around Point Loma and you’re in San Diego Harbor, where the big guys live. Restaurants with docks, great sailing, Hotel Del Coronado… on and on. You’ll want to stay for ever.
You’ve picked one of the best places to sail in the world. I sail out of Oceanside, south of Long Beach. I go to Catalina two or three times a year. If you are looking for good places to stay south of Long Beach, I would make the following recommendations. First stop from Catalina, Dana Point. It has free anchorage with plenty places to eat within walking distance. Next stop Mission Bay. Again free anchorage and you can get on the bus and go anywhere in San Diego from there. Go around Point Loma and you’re in San Diego Harbor, where the big guys live. Restaurants with docks, great sailing, Hotel Del Coronado… on and on. You’ll want to stay for ever.
Lets sail!
I have sailed Southern California for 30 years and boated it for many more. A few suggestions: When sailing to Catalina stay at the Isthmus on the back side in Catalina harbor. It's never completely full as you will find Avalon, where you will have to anchor in deep water. Be sure to sail on to Santa Barbara Island. It's just a few hours further and has many interesting things to see and good anchorage (with two secure anchors.) I'll send you my story on Santa Barbara Island written for Sail magazine, if you contact me at novelman@adelphia.net When sailing out of Long Beach be sure to spend some time sailing inside the breakwater as it is 7 miles long and more than a mile wide, with many points of interest. Lots to see, including the Queen Mary. Also you will need to make arrangements for dock space which is at a premium. Call Alamitos Bay Marina at 1 562 570 3215 at least three weeks ahead (four weeks is better.) I would go south from Long Beach and stay at the following harbors, which are about an easy days sail apart: Newport Harbor (not a great place to go ashore at.) Dana Point (call ahead for a dock space or anchor in very shallow water inside), Oceanside Harbor (limited dock spaces so call ahead if possible, Mission Bay no dock spaces but very sheltered anchoring areas. San Diego Harbor (lots of tie-ups availabel (Be sure to sail over to the sheltered anchorage (free) at Coronado Islands) My suggestion is to buy a map book, put out by West Marine, of Southern California from Long Beach to Mexico. I would be happy to meet with you in Long Beach and guide you around and perhaps create a flotilla of boats to sail to Catalin and Santa Barbara Island. If you will e-mail me I will give you my cell phone number so we can discuss this. For best results be sure to buy at least a 20 amp electrical connector and for best results buy a 30 amp also. (They are all available in the Long Beach harbor at West Marine.) P.S. for some of the dock spaces you will need your registration AND proof of insurance. Novelman, Duane Beaver
I have sailed Southern California for 30 years and boated it for many more. A few suggestions: When sailing to Catalina stay at the Isthmus on the back side in Catalina harbor. It's never completely full as you will find Avalon, where you will have to anchor in deep water. Be sure to sail on to Santa Barbara Island. It's just a few hours further and has many interesting things to see and good anchorage (with two secure anchors.) I'll send you my story on Santa Barbara Island written for Sail magazine, if you contact me at novelman@adelphia.net When sailing out of Long Beach be sure to spend some time sailing inside the breakwater as it is 7 miles long and more than a mile wide, with many points of interest. Lots to see, including the Queen Mary. Also you will need to make arrangements for dock space which is at a premium. Call Alamitos Bay Marina at 1 562 570 3215 at least three weeks ahead (four weeks is better.) I would go south from Long Beach and stay at the following harbors, which are about an easy days sail apart: Newport Harbor (not a great place to go ashore at.) Dana Point (call ahead for a dock space or anchor in very shallow water inside), Oceanside Harbor (limited dock spaces so call ahead if possible, Mission Bay no dock spaces but very sheltered anchoring areas. San Diego Harbor (lots of tie-ups availabel (Be sure to sail over to the sheltered anchorage (free) at Coronado Islands) My suggestion is to buy a map book, put out by West Marine, of Southern California from Long Beach to Mexico. I would be happy to meet with you in Long Beach and guide you around and perhaps create a flotilla of boats to sail to Catalin and Santa Barbara Island. If you will e-mail me I will give you my cell phone number so we can discuss this. For best results be sure to buy at least a 20 amp electrical connector and for best results buy a 30 amp also. (They are all available in the Long Beach harbor at West Marine.) P.S. for some of the dock spaces you will need your registration AND proof of insurance. Novelman, Duane Beaver
Also planning San Diego in late June
We are also planning a trip from Phoenix to San Diego in late June. Will be sailing on the Bay and Anchoring at Glorieta Bay and Shelter Island. Also doing Mission bay. Have a Mac 26D names 4Fun.
We are also planning a trip from Phoenix to San Diego in late June. Will be sailing on the Bay and Anchoring at Glorieta Bay and Shelter Island. Also doing Mission bay. Have a Mac 26D names 4Fun.
More info on Southern Calif. sailing
Marty, Novelman here. If you will contact me I have more important info on your planned trip regarding times, places, costs and boat equipment. Looking forward to hearing from you. Also have relevant info in the form of true sailing stories on the area. novelman@adelphia.net Duane
Marty, Novelman here. If you will contact me I have more important info on your planned trip regarding times, places, costs and boat equipment. Looking forward to hearing from you. Also have relevant info in the form of true sailing stories on the area. novelman@adelphia.net Duane
Message to Don F. going to San Diego
Hi there Since you are going over a month before us..contact me via E-mail at: martyfreed@Earthlink .net and tell me of your plans and when you get back your successes. For that matter anyone who wants to tell us of your experiences please feel free to email. Oh by the way we will have our 26d , Ms. Sugas, up at Pleasant for the Memorial day weekend. we'll look for you Marty
Hi there Since you are going over a month before us..contact me via E-mail at: martyfreed@Earthlink .net and tell me of your plans and when you get back your successes. For that matter anyone who wants to tell us of your experiences please feel free to email. Oh by the way we will have our 26d , Ms. Sugas, up at Pleasant for the Memorial day weekend. we'll look for you Marty
catalina
Hi Tim, I have an '84 Mac 25. I keep it in Newport Harbor year round and sail in the harbor a lot and take it out in the ocean quite a bit. This weekend I actually did my first destination sail (I've had the boat for 2 1/2 years) I went to Dana Point! I had some difficulties, I think because of the tiller and the keel... I didn't think this boat would be sufficient to sail to Catalina, but it appears that a lot of people are taking the Macs over. Can you offer any upgrades or advice for sailing to Catalina. It would probably be a girls trip - my husband doesn't sail. I'm not the best sailor, but I've managed to teach myself alot! I can single hand her, but I wouldn't attempt that in the ocean. Please let me know if you have any tips for me! I'm dying to sail to Catalina this summer!!!!
Hi Tim, I have an '84 Mac 25. I keep it in Newport Harbor year round and sail in the harbor a lot and take it out in the ocean quite a bit. This weekend I actually did my first destination sail (I've had the boat for 2 1/2 years) I went to Dana Point! I had some difficulties, I think because of the tiller and the keel... I didn't think this boat would be sufficient to sail to Catalina, but it appears that a lot of people are taking the Macs over. Can you offer any upgrades or advice for sailing to Catalina. It would probably be a girls trip - my husband doesn't sail. I'm not the best sailor, but I've managed to teach myself alot! I can single hand her, but I wouldn't attempt that in the ocean. Please let me know if you have any tips for me! I'm dying to sail to Catalina this summer!!!!
What difficulties ?
Hi Lori, Can you explain the "difficulties" you have with your keel and tiller please? It might help those on the forum help you. I suspect you are self-taught for the most part and so was I. I then took some lessons and the ASA offshore sailing school, it really helped me. Anyway, give us a hint. Steve P.
Hi Lori, Can you explain the "difficulties" you have with your keel and tiller please? It might help those on the forum help you. I suspect you are self-taught for the most part and so was I. I then took some lessons and the ASA offshore sailing school, it really helped me. Anyway, give us a hint. Steve P.
Difficulties!!
Hi Steve, My boat gets pulled into currents rather easily. I have to motor sail a lot to get out of tight situations. When ocean sailing, I'll get pulled toward the shore. I thought this was because of the keel.. not very wide, or the tiller. Any suggestions??? I can use any help I can get. Thanks!! Lori
Hi Steve, My boat gets pulled into currents rather easily. I have to motor sail a lot to get out of tight situations. When ocean sailing, I'll get pulled toward the shore. I thought this was because of the keel.. not very wide, or the tiller. Any suggestions??? I can use any help I can get. Thanks!! Lori
I'll sure try
Lori, Not knowing your area at all it sounds like you may need help in recognizing your points of sail. When you sail, do you have enough wind? If so, I suspect you're going where the wind takes you. That's ok but we need to plan to go where we want to go and not where the wind or currents take you. There should be current charts for your area as well as tide tables. Some of these currents should be tide induced. If there is anyone from your area who is used to sailing there perhaps they will come forward and offer to go out with you for instruction. I know I know everything and when I can I learn from people. I learn little things every day and find I needed them long ago. I'll still try to help in any way I can. Perhaps you should plan on motoring further out to take advantage of the prevailing winds. Hang in there. Steve
Lori, Not knowing your area at all it sounds like you may need help in recognizing your points of sail. When you sail, do you have enough wind? If so, I suspect you're going where the wind takes you. That's ok but we need to plan to go where we want to go and not where the wind or currents take you. There should be current charts for your area as well as tide tables. Some of these currents should be tide induced. If there is anyone from your area who is used to sailing there perhaps they will come forward and offer to go out with you for instruction. I know I know everything and when I can I learn from people. I learn little things every day and find I needed them long ago. I'll still try to help in any way I can. Perhaps you should plan on motoring further out to take advantage of the prevailing winds. Hang in there. Steve
great advice
Thanks Steve! You're absolutely correct, I do need help w/ points of sail!! I took a Lido class years ago - then bought a 14 ft. boat then moved up to a 25 w/ a tiller - I figured it was pretty much the same thing, only bigger!!! I will try motoring further out also! I plan on making the same trip again in a few weeks. I've never checked charts - I don't even know if I know how. I would appreciate some sailing time w/ a know it all!!! If anyone is in Newport Beach and wouldn't mind sparing some time to sail w/ me - I'd welcome it!!! Thanks for the advice!! I'll be checking in from time to time to ask for more pointers!!! Thanks again, Lor
Thanks Steve! You're absolutely correct, I do need help w/ points of sail!! I took a Lido class years ago - then bought a 14 ft. boat then moved up to a 25 w/ a tiller - I figured it was pretty much the same thing, only bigger!!! I will try motoring further out also! I plan on making the same trip again in a few weeks. I've never checked charts - I don't even know if I know how. I would appreciate some sailing time w/ a know it all!!! If anyone is in Newport Beach and wouldn't mind sparing some time to sail w/ me - I'd welcome it!!! Thanks for the advice!! I'll be checking in from time to time to ask for more pointers!!! Thanks again, Lor
Try talking to someone
Lori, I suspect you may be into tidal currents. Take some classes and learn about tides and currents. At different times of the day these will change from incoming to outgoing and these currents can be very strong. It doesn't matter about your keel or your tiller, you must learn to use tide charts to your advantage and make life easy on yourself. There are several schools, I'll google some up here and get back to you. A few classes or a good old salt ( all your helper really needs to know is more than you, and be a good patient teacher) to sit in your cockpit and talk and watch you is priceless.
Stay tuned and someone out there get in contact with this sailor lady. Steve P.
Lori, I suspect you may be into tidal currents. Take some classes and learn about tides and currents. At different times of the day these will change from incoming to outgoing and these currents can be very strong. It doesn't matter about your keel or your tiller, you must learn to use tide charts to your advantage and make life easy on yourself. There are several schools, I'll google some up here and get back to you. A few classes or a good old salt ( all your helper really needs to know is more than you, and be a good patient teacher) to sit in your cockpit and talk and watch you is priceless.
Stay tuned and someone out there get in contact with this sailor lady. Steve P.Here's one site
Hey Lori, Here is one site, it appears you have a normal 2X day tide of some 3.8' or about 4 foot. There are zillions of chart, currents and tide information sites out there. Enjoy, Steve P.
Hey Lori, Here is one site, it appears you have a normal 2X day tide of some 3.8' or about 4 foot. There are zillions of chart, currents and tide information sites out there. Enjoy, Steve P.
Catalina
Lori, If you are interested I have two articles that have been published on "Preparing Your Boat for Singlehanding" and "Preparing your boat for heavy weather sailing". After you have read them contact me and I'll see about going on a check-out sail or meeting you in Long Beach with my 22' Venture. Novelman novelman@adelphia.net
Lori, If you are interested I have two articles that have been published on "Preparing Your Boat for Singlehanding" and "Preparing your boat for heavy weather sailing". After you have read them contact me and I'll see about going on a check-out sail or meeting you in Long Beach with my 22' Venture. Novelman novelman@adelphia.net
lady sailor
i'm new to huntington harbor and interested in finding other woman to sail with in the area and i have sailed to catalina, and have use of bigger boats in long beach. if interested lori please email me at htdr@aol.com with contact information
i'm new to huntington harbor and interested in finding other woman to sail with in the area and i have sailed to catalina, and have use of bigger boats in long beach. if interested lori please email me at htdr@aol.com with contact information
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That's a beautiful part of SoCal! I used to be stationed at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro back in the 70s. Road my bicycle and motorcycle out to Laguna, Huntington and Newport beaches every chance I got. Flew over Catalina in a Cessna 152. If I was you, I'd look into some offshore sailing classes. I think it would make your longterm sailing hobby much more enjoyable. Just my $.02
That's a beautiful part of SoCal! I used to be stationed at the Marine Corps Air Station at El Toro back in the 70s. Road my bicycle and motorcycle out to Laguna, Huntington and Newport beaches every chance I got. Flew over Catalina in a Cessna 152. If I was you, I'd look into some offshore sailing classes. I think it would make your longterm sailing hobby much more enjoyable. Just my $.02
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