Pirates Aboard!

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Mar 4, 2004
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Hunter 37.5 Orcas Island, WA
"The gales of November came early." We have our first serious storm of the fall. Winds at our local weather buoy at Smith Island topped out last night at 41 knots, sustained, with gusts to 48. Altogether better for reading by the fire than sitting out in an anchorage. So I found a new book yesterday at the Orcas Public Library entitled "Pirates Aboard!" by German Klaus Hympendahl and read about half of it last night. It's a non fiction account of a series of acts of "piracy" committed on cruising yachts around the world. It ranges from the problem Joshua Slocum encountered with Indians near Tierra del Fuego to the incident that resulted in the death of Sir Peter Blake on the Amazon as well as problems experienced by a whole lot of lesser known cruisers. Perhaps it's best value is in a review of what the victims might have done differently (usually avoiding a problem location). The pattern seems to be the result of cruising sailboats either anchored in solitary coves or sailing near shore in unstable parts of the world. The difference between the relative affluence of the yachties and the grinding poverty of the local residents seems to create an environment that at least sometimes results in an armed robbery, some times with fatal consequences for the victims. Hympendahl runs through some math to project the total numbers of blue water cruisers out at any given moment and also allows for the fact that probably only half of the incidents ever get reported. Yet he concludes that less than one half of one percent of cruising boats ever have a problem. He also concludes that avoiding certain problem areas such as Guatemala's Rio Dulce and the Somali Coast among others reduces the risk to near zero. Which brings me to my question. Have you experienced any real or threatened crime while you are out sailing? Have you been burglarized or had things stolen from your boat or had a dinghy swiped? Do your concerns about crime whille sailing alter your plans? Do you lock your companionway from below when you sleep aboard? My personal thought is that the risks are probably higher on land. I've never had a problem after hundreds of nights aboard ranging from big cities like Seattle and Vancouver to deserted anchorages in Britsh Columbia, Mexico and the Caribbean. Maybe I'm just lucky. Recognizing this post has a high potential to degrade into a discussion of the pros and cons of firearms on board, I've done a shadow post on the Sail Call Lounge for the firearms discussion. Please use that and keep the guns discussion off the primary thread. Thanks. Gary Wyngarden S/V Wanderlust H37.5
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
Sheeze Gary,

You sure know how to compose a post! You've outdone yourself. Oh, to answer your question; No. Same places as you, too.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Worried one time

Last fall while heading south, we were somewhere in N.Fla. Anchored up for the night. I had noticed a fairly small outboard, with two people aboard, running up and down the ICW. Shortly after dark, they approached, and asked permission to board. I said no. Then they said they were lost, and looking for the ramp where they had put in. Pretty heavy foreign accent, but I couldn't make out from where. I did give them instructions for where they wanted to get to, and they left. A short time later, I heard what sounded like the same boat, running up and down the channel, similar to the earlier situation, and became a little concerned. Only weapon on board was a flare gun, so I loaded it up and stood with my head out of the companionway. I figured a boat fire would at least slow them down a little. Nothing came of this, and soon the boat went off towards the north. I think all you can do is pay attention to your surroundings, and be prepared as best you can be.
 
Jan 5, 2007
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- - NY
Rio Dulce??

I think the Rio is quite safe these days...which simply points out that things change over time and if you are cruising, you need to keep up with the latest data. Right now, Venezuela seems dicey and Trinidad was a problem last year but seems to have calmed down a bit. Haiti, Jamaica and parts of the DR (Samana) have bad reputations and there's a recent article on a boat being stripped after going aground in Cuba. The Med School in Grenada pulled its' students out of St. Vincent 6 months ago due to a rash of rapes and violent attacks. Stealing dinghy's is a problem in lots of places but real violence is rare unless you go to places well off the beaten path and anchor out alone. There are plenty of beautiful places to visit without going in harms way and you need current information or you will miss some beautiful places due to rumours from years past.
 
Dec 25, 2000
6,052
Hunter Passage 42 Shelter Bay, WA
Hi Gary, nope and nope...

The closest I've been to a so called burglar is a sea otter crawling into the dink for a nap. The biggest threat was while under sail across the southern end of Queen Charlotte Strait last year when a very large Humpback whale came up for a peek and a blow fifteen feet off our starboard beam. Almost had a heart attack. Speaking of burglars...a friend of mine told me that a large tree in the community fell. It had an eagle's nest in it. When they inspected the nest amongst the wreckage they found eight cat collars. Hmmm. Terry
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Experience not as good as yours Gary

Question: Have you experienced any real or threatened crime while you are out sailing? Answer: Yes. #1: In Juneau we had the boat in the old marina which is in the old downtown area. We went ashore up the gangplank and along the edge of the marina when I remembered I left someting on the boat and went back to get it. This was only a relatively few minutes. When I arrived at the boat the companionway hatch was partially open. It was definitely closed when we left because we have a cat on board. His tail was all fluffed up. There were a number of empty slips in the "neighborhood" around our boat but there was a rather scruffy looking sailboat diagonally across from ours with a couple characters on board. Didn't find anything missing but my guess is we surprised them before they had a chance to liberate anything. From then on the hatch was locked. #2: Last month in my own marina, a secure Yacht Club, the deck brush (just the brush, not the handle) which I left to dry under the dodger (the dodger has "glass" covers for protection so things aren't visible from the main dock) and some Mermaid Eisenglass(sp?) cleaner, which I forgot to stow below before the hatch was locked, were both taken. And Poulsbo is what I'd call a pretty 'safe' town. #3: A few years ago we were using the reciprocal moorage at Nainamo Yacht Club when there was a commotion in the early morning twilight hours off our bow. The guy on the boat in front had a tussle with some "kid", say 18 or 20 y.o., in a dingy. Turned out the dingy was the skippers and the kid was trying to liberate it. I just missed catching the kid by a couple yards/seconds as he ran past our boat and up the dock but with tenderfoot-bare feet on concret deck there was no way I could catch him. #4: Had a dingy stolen when I was in college. Was stored on the dock near dad's boat for several years. Wanted to do some work on it and went down to pick it up but forgot the key for the lock. Came back the next weekend and it was gone. :( Question: Do your concerns about crime while sailing alter your plans? Answer: Generally, no. However,... #1: This year we were going to anchor out at Ladysmith in BC, near the Seattle Outstation by the way, and were advised to choose another bay from the one we were thinking of. Seems the folks there were, shall we say, suspect in a number of missing things in the area. We went to another area which was recommended and anchored and had a restful night. #2: Several years ago we tied up to a dock in Seattle near the ferry terminal while my wife went to Pikes Place Market to do some shopping. It was summer, hot, and I stayed on board and rested. While looking up through the hatch I could see several of the local indigents kinda eyeing and apparently discussing the boat. I thought alot about what I would do if they actually came down to climb aboard. Needless to say, I didn't get the rest that I thought I would get. Never been back and now the dock has been remodeled for the fast foot ferry. In the Northwest, BC, and Alaska, my biggest concern would be for the marinas in Juneau and Ketchikan. Keep the boat locked. It's just plain easier that way and reduces the temptation. Never had anything happen which was close to needing a gun. Errr..., um, wait a minute. There was this powerboat that whizzed close by us......
 
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AXEL

I had a friend who...

I have a friend who has made a couple of solo trips down the ICW from NY to Key West. He keeps a loaded shotgun on board. He told me of many a deserted anchorage where he slept with one eye open. Me mentioned one particular occurrence where a small power boat with two shady looking characters aboard had come along side while he was under way and actually asked him if he was the only one aboard. He faked it and said his wife was below and yelled down as if he was talking to her. The small power boat moved on. Can you imagine if he had said he was alone!
 

Bilbo

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Aug 29, 2005
1,265
Catalina 22 Ohio
Pirates!

Not many pirates up here on our lake. It's probably just not worth it as a full time occupation for them. We do have the ocacasional burgler, thief or vandal though aqnd I keep my motor locked to the mount. A local sailer said that his boat was set free this summer from it's mooring which may or may not have happened. I'm not sure. I can say that the boat is pretty new to him and he did have his mast fall last year during some foul weather.
 
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Mac Lindsay

pirates

Gary; Our boat was broken into about 12 years ago at the Vancouver Rowing Club where we kept our boat at that time. The thief was scared off by a fellow boater who heard the thief throwing my stuff into his inflatable at 0400 in the morning. Most boats broken into up here are usually by druggies who will steal anything of value to sell for drugs. I lost about $2000 of equipment including all the pop and beer in the ice box. When ever we are leaving the boat for any length of time, we close all through hulls and all hatches and lock the boat. As they say, it keeps out the casual thief but not the determined. Of course, I see a few cruising boats flying pirate flags but usually with a crew of small pirates. Mac Lindsay S.V. Kitkatla
 
Aug 8, 2006
340
Catalina 34 Naples FL
Southern Florida

This week we have an incident where a charter captain, his wife , brother in law and another guy, (crew) were taking 2 men to Bimini. They became overdue and a search found 2 men (the passangers) in a row boat near Cuba. The GPS showed the boat went about 1/2 way across the Stream From Lauderdale and then veered toward Cuba. It ran out of gas, was abandoned when found. Blood on the boat. About 15 miles away they found the 2 customers. Both these men were fleeing the law. One for embezeling 92 thousand dollars from a Tenn WalMart. These men reported they were boarded by Pirates and they were instructed to throw the others off the boat after the pirates shot them. "fishey story". Abondoned boat, no bodies, blood and survivors were crimminals" What do you think
 
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steve rainey

Dealing w AH's

this is a good topic, has always been a concern of mine and really my biggest worry about taking off on a long cruise. I'd like to see this as a main link. "Security" or whatever...
 
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Brian

Pirates of the Caribbean

After several visits to the Eastern Caribbean, Antigua to Grenada over several years, I can report that there definely are Pirates and we did have encounters. The good news is that that they are no longer on the high seas, but rather have moved into luxury, on dry land,in a much more lucritive fashion,---- operating operating marinas.
 
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John Ehricht

Gulf Coast Post Katrina

Last summer we were anchored in Biloxi next to the Beau Rivage Casino before it reopened after Katrina. It was hot and we were running the generator and having dinner down below when we noted someone trying to board the boat. My wife went out on deck and asked the fellow what he was doing. He said that he had a bet with his buddy that someone would come out on deck. She asked if he needed any help getting back to shore and he said he was a navy seal. He returned to a broken down sail boat with no mast that was beached. A native of Biloxi who was on board said that they would likely be back later that night to rob us, steal the boat, kill us, etc. So, we immediately pulled up the anchor and went out to an island and anchored for the night. Also, a few weeks ago, a boat was broken into at our marina in Madisonville, LA, and the people who were on drugs stayed in the boat for a couple of weeks and damaged the boat. The boat had been for sale for a long period of time and the owners seldom came to check on the boat. So, we will be sure to remember to check our boat frequently. There is suppose to be security at the marina, however this happened. So, go figure.
 
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