Pigment: Is it all the same?

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Rich L

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Mar 9, 2004
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Hunter 26 Kentucky
Can I use pigment labelled for use with epoxy (West System) with polyester resin, specifically, the kind I purchased at this link? I'm gelcoating and found that I need a lot more white pigment in the polyester that I thought to get the color white. Many thanks
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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When I need pigment for coloring resin

I go to my friendly neighborhood Sherwin-Williams store and ask them to sell me a quantity. If it is a small amount they generally give it to me. These are universal colorants, compatable with all types of coatings.
 
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Ken

Color Match Now But Will Not Match Later

If you are matching to you existing color of gelcoat no problem. The real issue occurs after 2 seasons in the sun. The UV rays will cause your work to change. The patches or touchups you did will eventually show due to the work of the sun. Your old gelcoat has already been affected by the sun. Small spots will show so work on a larger area so it is less noticable.
 

Rich L

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Mar 9, 2004
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Hunter 26 Kentucky
Thanks

Pigment is pigment - I like that. Except I used a pigment labeled for epoxy and it appears to have caused the polyester not to fully cure tack free as the label promises. It's a pain trying to sand it as it gums up rather than sands into a powder. After I get it removed, I'll try a more generic pigment...
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Rich, The pigment provides the color

but the vehicle that carries the pigment determines its compatability with the resin or paint system you are using. The quantity involved should be small enough to not alter the qualities of the system. This is why the colorants used by paint stores is called universal colorant. It will blend equally with latex or alkyd paint or with the more sophisticated two part systems.
 
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Tim McCarty

You would want a titanium dioxide dispersion...

in a compatable resin to epoxy or polyester gelcoat. Unless you have a ball mill, or a cowles mill, I would not try mixing dry pigment yourself. Typical dispersions are also known as universal colorants. I would contact the technical people at West System (also known as Gougeon Bros.) for direction on what universal colorants are available for your resin system...good luck!
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Make life simple!!! go to the paint

store get some universal colorant in white and whatever tint you want. Mix up a 1 ounce batch color it to please yourself and spread it out, and see how it works. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain, like experience.
 

Rich L

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Mar 9, 2004
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Hunter 26 Kentucky
Universal colorant

I got some paste universal colorant which the directions said would work for either polyester or epoxy and it worked fine. Found it in a sporting goods store. Probably paid too much ($4 for 2 oz), but it worked, so maybe not. Thanks for the ideas, guys.
 
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