I am racing (jib and main) on a Oceanis 281. We have furling jib (140%), furling main, folding prop and a bimini. We have been assigned a rating by the local race committee. Would someone have a PHRF rating for a similar configuration. We race in Lake St. Clair.
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PHRF links
Here's a site to look at: There are two things to look for. First, trying to find a boat like yours for comparison, and secondly, learning about the system. I got bumbed out early on when "my" rater gave me a really fast rating because he didn't have time to deal with it and and went on vaccation. The only way to change my rating now is to go before a board, or something like that, and appeal. Well, I'm just not into that sort of thing so I just dropped out and took up cruising instead. Any races now are "unoffcial"! i.e., two boats on the water. Check this site out: http://www.phrf.com. this is a private site, unaffialiated with PHRF, with links - look under "Links" and "PHRF Data Bases". Could not find the 281 listed but did find a 285 in one of the tables. There is also a discussion group area. I've come across other sites in the past with good boat listings but can't put my fingers on them at the moment. One thing you'll find out is the PHRF rating is not friendly to cruising boats with big battery banks, dodgers, orange peal bottom paint like Trinidad, extra anchors, etc. The bimini won't give you any credit - just adds to windage. Hopefully some others will chime in.
Here's a site to look at: There are two things to look for. First, trying to find a boat like yours for comparison, and secondly, learning about the system. I got bumbed out early on when "my" rater gave me a really fast rating because he didn't have time to deal with it and and went on vaccation. The only way to change my rating now is to go before a board, or something like that, and appeal. Well, I'm just not into that sort of thing so I just dropped out and took up cruising instead. Any races now are "unoffcial"! i.e., two boats on the water. Check this site out: http://www.phrf.com. this is a private site, unaffialiated with PHRF, with links - look under "Links" and "PHRF Data Bases". Could not find the 281 listed but did find a 285 in one of the tables. There is also a discussion group area. I've come across other sites in the past with good boat listings but can't put my fingers on them at the moment. One thing you'll find out is the PHRF rating is not friendly to cruising boats with big battery banks, dodgers, orange peal bottom paint like Trinidad, extra anchors, etc. The bimini won't give you any credit - just adds to windage. Hopefully some others will chime in.
Oceanis 281 PHRF
John - Thanks for your info. Our RC has given us a rating of 189. What rating were you given?
John - Thanks for your info. Our RC has given us a rating of 189. What rating were you given?
Don't have a rating...
.... because I don't have a 281. However, as a comment on your sails. Standardly you're allowed to go to a 150 or 153 percent jib with the "working sails" or "non-flying sails" rating. Anything larger than the 150/153 will throw you into the flying sails category. Some times it's really amazing how close boats will finish on corrected time. A race that lasts several hours will have finishers within a couple minutes of each other. Sometimes it's hard to look back at that stupid move you did that could have changed the outcome, but hopefully you learn. The problem is there's soooo much to learn!
.... because I don't have a 281. However, as a comment on your sails. Standardly you're allowed to go to a 150 or 153 percent jib with the "working sails" or "non-flying sails" rating. Anything larger than the 150/153 will throw you into the flying sails category. Some times it's really amazing how close boats will finish on corrected time. A race that lasts several hours will have finishers within a couple minutes of each other. Sometimes it's hard to look back at that stupid move you did that could have changed the outcome, but hopefully you learn. The problem is there's soooo much to learn!
Flying Sails Penalty
To add on to what has been said previously, in most areas the flying sails penalty is usually acknowledged to be a "sweetheart" penalty in that what you gain with the spinnaker in speed is usually much better than the penalty. In our area this is 6 seconds per mile. But this really works well if one can get the chute up reasonably fast and take it down quickly. If the course has two or more spinnaker runs then one has to be able to pack it in the bag ready for flying again, or, own two or more chutes.
To add on to what has been said previously, in most areas the flying sails penalty is usually acknowledged to be a "sweetheart" penalty in that what you gain with the spinnaker in speed is usually much better than the penalty. In our area this is 6 seconds per mile. But this really works well if one can get the chute up reasonably fast and take it down quickly. If the course has two or more spinnaker runs then one has to be able to pack it in the bag ready for flying again, or, own two or more chutes.
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