PHEII Raritan Heads

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Rob

Peggy,, I have been experiencing a leak in my manual head. The leak occurs when I pull the pump up on the handle and a nice splash of water comes up with each stroke from around the shaft......I have just visited the Raritan website and found the repair parts needed and I am about to make the purchse... My question is..my marine manager told me that ALL heads leak somewhat..even new ones..is that your opinion as well??.eventually even fairly new heads leak? My boat is a 1985 maybe the head is that old (not sure) I do know its due for service...but how long can an average use head gasket kit last?? 2 or 3 seasons?.......We are a family of 4 cruisers and entertain about once a month.....sail from May- November. curious for your opinon. Thanks for your insight. Rob
 
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Mary Lou Hunt

Leaking Head

Rob I have had the same head on my 1990 Catalina 28 for 14 seasons. I have only had a leaking water problem in the same area where you are having difficulty once about five years ago. I put in a new shaft seal on the pump handle. Problem solved. Heads do not need to leak! I use Head-O -Matic lube on the head once every two weeks to keep the seals from drying out. Just a couple of squirts in the toilet bowl does the job. I really lube it well when I winterize it and again at spring launch. Original head for 14 seasons-works like a charm - no leakage whatsoever! Mary Lou Hunt
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Your marina manager is wrong...

That would be tantamount to saying "all engines smoke." But engines shouldn't smoke and toilets should NOT leak. If even the new heads he installs leak, it's because he doesn't know how to install 'em correctly--he overtightens discharge fittings or puts too much sideways stress on the discharge hose instead of replacing the straight discharge fitting with an elbow...single hose clamps instead of double, etc. His sort of "advice" irritates me because it only encourages owner neglect of problems that are actually very easy to solve. If kept properly lubricated, a PH II (PHE II is the electric version) should require rebuilding only about every 4-5 years, and can easily last for 20 years or longer. If lubrication is neglected, the rubber o-rings and seals wear out much faster. Over time, it can also wear the inside of the pump cylinder...salt and grit can score the inside of the pump cylinder--eventually to the point where rebuilding no longer can help. But even the most meticulously lubricated toilets require rebuilding at least once every 5 years to keep 'em working at peak efficiency. Ever wondered why a new toilet doesn't need any lubrication for at least a year? That's because they all leave the factory slathered with thick teflon grease that lasts at least a year, sometimes two, depending upon how much use the boat gets. When it does need lubrication, you can either fight the never-ending battle of pouring something down the head that just washes out in just a few flushes...or you can spend about 10 minutes just once a year (and about $5 once every 2-3 years instead of buying bottle after bottle of whatever you've been pouring down the toilet) to replace the factory lubrication as part of preventive maintenance: Buy a tube of SuperLube or other Teflon grease (ONLY teflon grease...don't use anything else). To lubricate a manual Jabso toilet, remove the two screws that hold the top of the pump on...remove the top, lift the pump handle and put a healthy squirt of teflon grease into the pump cylinder...pump a few times to spread it all over the inside of the cylinder and the rubber parts...put the top back on...you're done till next year. To lubricate a PH II, remove the air valve (flat square little nut with a hole in it on the front of the pump that can fool you into thinking it's molded into the pump body)...put a healthy squirt of teflon grease into the pump...pump a few times...clean the air valve and put it back...and you're done till next year. The best time to do it is the fall as part of winterizing--after you've run antifreeze through the toilet. The grease protects the rubber parts in the toilet from drying out over the winter and extends their life. This and a whole bunch of other useful stuff is included in my book.
 
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Rob

Thank You!!

mary Lou and Peggy thank you for your insights!...Peggy I printed you email and will add this to my commisioning book/ notes......and will be adding your book soon..its on my birthday list !!.. Thanks again!! Rob
 
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