OK. We've all heard about what boats ARE NOT Ocean Crossing worthy, BUT: If you could have the perfect vessel for crossing that big wide ocean, what would it be? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Miles
The HC-50
I think a nice new HC-50 would be just the thing (as long as somebody else is buying that is...)
I think a nice new HC-50 would be just the thing (as long as somebody else is buying that is...)
The HC-50 too!
I'll second that! Strong and fast, what more could anyone ask for? About $150k less!?
I'll second that! Strong and fast, what more could anyone ask for? About $150k less!?
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Bob Knott
My personal favorite...so far
I've done a little research here, and plan to cruise with my wife, and two tennagers so here's what I like; Tayana 46 Passagemaker; It has a true piltohouse, real inside steering station, just about everything else you would need to cruise the world. Check it out at; http://www.passagemakeroffshore.com A very well thought out boat, designed by a world renown designer created by a Colin Hadfield who already sailed the world on a Tayana 42 and designed his dream boat,talked Robert Harris into drawing it, talked Tayana into putting their name on it, and now is sailing the boat around the world to boat shows. Can't wait to see it at this falls Newport show. Anyway just my 2 cents worth. Bob Knott H380
I've done a little research here, and plan to cruise with my wife, and two tennagers so here's what I like; Tayana 46 Passagemaker; It has a true piltohouse, real inside steering station, just about everything else you would need to cruise the world. Check it out at; http://www.passagemakeroffshore.com A very well thought out boat, designed by a world renown designer created by a Colin Hadfield who already sailed the world on a Tayana 42 and designed his dream boat,talked Robert Harris into drawing it, talked Tayana into putting their name on it, and now is sailing the boat around the world to boat shows. Can't wait to see it at this falls Newport show. Anyway just my 2 cents worth. Bob Knott H380
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Buck Harrison
A 747
Nothing goes to weather like it........ Your passage times are remarkably short...... They come w/ captain & crew, and best of all.... your don't have to buy one, you can rent a seat......
Nothing goes to weather like it........ Your passage times are remarkably short...... They come w/ captain & crew, and best of all.... your don't have to buy one, you can rent a seat......
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Russell Egge
If I had my druthers...
For two reasons I will not take the 'party line' here and claim that my favourite ocean-going yacht is a Cherubini 44: 1. They are maintenance hounds. If it's not one thing it's another. Any complex boat will be a pain to maintain. C-44s were built right but they are still complicated and like a Jag XKE you have to pay for that good looks and performance with constant tinkering. Not a good concept for going to sea. 2. Too expensive. I built the things for several years and yet will never be able to afford one. Any hope of finding a C-44 for less than $120,000 is almost a pipe dream-- and boats at about that limit will likely need a lot of work. That said my hands-down choice for the all-around best cruising boat of the universe will be, and especially for a decent amount of open-ocean sailing, the Hinckley Bermuda 40 yawl. Think about it-- classic boat, execellent design, fast and comfortable, exactly the right size for single- or short-handing, built right, typically very well maintained by former owners, and according to Soundings can be available on the East Coast for $85,000 sometimes. I will take that bargain ANY day over a complicated modern bathtub with a radar arch, in-mast roller furling, a jacuzzi, and everything electronic, electric, or just plain unnecessary (and susceptible to failure). You've got to put a LOT of thought into decisions like this, for when you make them, and my decision is to NEVER to put a lot of faith in technological gadgetry for the open sea. Good design and construction will last far longer than gimmicks-- and yes, I will bet on that, because going to sea is always a wager between your efforts and the elements. JC
For two reasons I will not take the 'party line' here and claim that my favourite ocean-going yacht is a Cherubini 44: 1. They are maintenance hounds. If it's not one thing it's another. Any complex boat will be a pain to maintain. C-44s were built right but they are still complicated and like a Jag XKE you have to pay for that good looks and performance with constant tinkering. Not a good concept for going to sea. 2. Too expensive. I built the things for several years and yet will never be able to afford one. Any hope of finding a C-44 for less than $120,000 is almost a pipe dream-- and boats at about that limit will likely need a lot of work. That said my hands-down choice for the all-around best cruising boat of the universe will be, and especially for a decent amount of open-ocean sailing, the Hinckley Bermuda 40 yawl. Think about it-- classic boat, execellent design, fast and comfortable, exactly the right size for single- or short-handing, built right, typically very well maintained by former owners, and according to Soundings can be available on the East Coast for $85,000 sometimes. I will take that bargain ANY day over a complicated modern bathtub with a radar arch, in-mast roller furling, a jacuzzi, and everything electronic, electric, or just plain unnecessary (and susceptible to failure). You've got to put a LOT of thought into decisions like this, for when you make them, and my decision is to NEVER to put a lot of faith in technological gadgetry for the open sea. Good design and construction will last far longer than gimmicks-- and yes, I will bet on that, because going to sea is always a wager between your efforts and the elements. JC
my point, illustrated
By the way, to illustrate my point, the curious or contentious may consult: http://www.buy-a-boat.com/hinckley.htm Especially look at the level of maintenance and work that has been done to keep thos baby up. And for that price it is a hand-down STEAL!!!! JC
By the way, to illustrate my point, the curious or contentious may consult: http://www.buy-a-boat.com/hinckley.htm Especially look at the level of maintenance and work that has been done to keep thos baby up. And for that price it is a hand-down STEAL!!!! JC
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Jerry Keto
Amel
For Comfort & Safety I'd have to go for the Amel Sper Maramu 2000. Designed and built with ocean cruising in mind. Besides, my neighbor has one and I'm probably not allowed to look at another ocean cruiser.
For Comfort & Safety I'd have to go for the Amel Sper Maramu 2000. Designed and built with ocean cruising in mind. Besides, my neighbor has one and I'm probably not allowed to look at another ocean cruiser.
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Steve Cook
To J.C. (yer outta line here mister)
I had to do a double take on your post and it seems that 1.) you harbor ill feelings towards Hunter Marine Inc.maybe because of past business relations? 2.)you spend way too much time on the Crusing World BBS.That's where your Hunter bashing belongs! not here! It takes a lot of guts to bash Hunter sailboats on a Hunter owners web site. I took your post personally and you have lost all of my respect and I will no longer read any more of your post! You need to wake up and smell the coffee, the times they are a changen as Bob would say. The old boats with old tech can not compare with latest state of the art (old school-new school). Speed, safety, comfort, you'll only find one of these on a old lead sled. That's why you see so many old boats for sale, nobody wants them. I have a new boat and I have been on and sailed 100 old boats. I could never would never go back to a old boat again! I like my bath tub as you call it, I like my high tech hull and my high tech rig, I trust it with my life every day I sail it. Remember J.C. the only thing constant is change! n-uff said. Steve Cook, s/v The Odyssey (H310)
I had to do a double take on your post and it seems that 1.) you harbor ill feelings towards Hunter Marine Inc.maybe because of past business relations? 2.)you spend way too much time on the Crusing World BBS.That's where your Hunter bashing belongs! not here! It takes a lot of guts to bash Hunter sailboats on a Hunter owners web site. I took your post personally and you have lost all of my respect and I will no longer read any more of your post! You need to wake up and smell the coffee, the times they are a changen as Bob would say. The old boats with old tech can not compare with latest state of the art (old school-new school). Speed, safety, comfort, you'll only find one of these on a old lead sled. That's why you see so many old boats for sale, nobody wants them. I have a new boat and I have been on and sailed 100 old boats. I could never would never go back to a old boat again! I like my bath tub as you call it, I like my high tech hull and my high tech rig, I trust it with my life every day I sail it. Remember J.C. the only thing constant is change! n-uff said. Steve Cook, s/v The Odyssey (H310)
Steve Cook, you're being a little hard on the beav!
Steve: Don't be quite so hard on our guest. It is just an opinion, and his own preference only.
Steve: Don't be quite so hard on our guest. It is just an opinion, and his own preference only.
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