Is a 1-part paint such as Interlux Toplac or Brightside good or is a 2-part polyurethane such as Perfection the thing to use? I don't know what the fundamental difference is between Brightside (1-part polyurethane) and Toplac (???) is except that the only paint of the 3 that seems to have a color that comes close to matching my current bootstripe is Toplac in the color 'Bounty'. I have looked briefly at other paints but don't seem to be able to find a color match to the burgundy that I want to have. Any thoughts?
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Toplac vs. Brightside.
As you know both are one part poly paints. I have found that Toplac goes on better with the roll and tip method than Brightside. I seem to get a lot less brush strokes visible and less runs with Toplac. But I have never used either for the boot stripe instead always selecting a paint actually labeled "Boot Stripe". I have also read where Rustoleum was used with good results and at less than half the price!
As you know both are one part poly paints. I have found that Toplac goes on better with the roll and tip method than Brightside. I seem to get a lot less brush strokes visible and less runs with Toplac. But I have never used either for the boot stripe instead always selecting a paint actually labeled "Boot Stripe". I have also read where Rustoleum was used with good results and at less than half the price!
Toplac bootstripe
I painted my boot stripe with Toplac. I belive the color was Pacific blue. Tip an roll method The results were fantastic. It has been 2 years and it still looks new. I would recommend Toplac any day for bootstripe. Regards
I painted my boot stripe with Toplac. I belive the color was Pacific blue. Tip an roll method The results were fantastic. It has been 2 years and it still looks new. I would recommend Toplac any day for bootstripe. Regards
Brightside
FWIW, Interlux Brightside paint is listed as "Boottop and Striping Enamel." I've used this paint for both boot and cove stripes and found it easy to use and that it produced a pretty good result. I would use Toplac if I were going to paint the entire topsides or deck.
FWIW, Interlux Brightside paint is listed as "Boottop and Striping Enamel." I've used this paint for both boot and cove stripes and found it easy to use and that it produced a pretty good result. I would use Toplac if I were going to paint the entire topsides or deck.
A comment on Brightside Poly
I used Brightside last season for the first time, and had a real problem with growth on the boot...and no place else. I'm planning on redoing this spring. Don't really appreciate a pencil-thin moustache...on the boat, at least! Jackline Jeff
I used Brightside last season for the first time, and had a real problem with growth on the boot...and no place else. I'm planning on redoing this spring. Don't really appreciate a pencil-thin moustache...on the boat, at least! Jackline Jeff
jeff same problem here in great lakes
Brightside had a good amount of growth at the waterline. I'm going to try to coat over this years w/ a clear bioside and see if that helps. Pray for Wind Lugeman
Brightside had a good amount of growth at the waterline. I'm going to try to coat over this years w/ a clear bioside and see if that helps. Pray for Wind Lugeman
Perfection
I have not used Toplac but have used both Brightside and Perfection. Perfection is suitable for any area of the topsides and is more durable than the 1 part paints. So if you want to paint less often then I would use Perfection. And with the proper thinning and roll/tip technique, you can obtain glass like results.
I have not used Toplac but have used both Brightside and Perfection. Perfection is suitable for any area of the topsides and is more durable than the 1 part paints. So if you want to paint less often then I would use Perfection. And with the proper thinning and roll/tip technique, you can obtain glass like results.
Check An Auto Detailer
A local auto/marine shop did both of my boot and cove stripes in stick-on vinyl a few years ago. Looks fabulous and is very durable. Quick and simple. Even added marine flags under each letter of the boat's name on each side of the bow or Tango, Uniform, Lima, Alpha. I think it looks great. So do others. Pete
A local auto/marine shop did both of my boot and cove stripes in stick-on vinyl a few years ago. Looks fabulous and is very durable. Quick and simple. Even added marine flags under each letter of the boat's name on each side of the bow or Tango, Uniform, Lima, Alpha. I think it looks great. So do others. Pete
This will open a new can
Well, this pot hasn't been stirred in some time, so here goes. Lowes now handles a paint made by Valspar. It is a one part urethane, porch and deck enamel. This stuff is harder than the gates of hell, has an excellent gloss, is available also in matt and satin. You can get it mixed to any color you want. I can't tell you how well it holds up, as the expirement is just starting, but I can tell you that you can get any color you want,goes on nice, looks great, and it is about 20 bucks a gallon.
Well, this pot hasn't been stirred in some time, so here goes. Lowes now handles a paint made by Valspar. It is a one part urethane, porch and deck enamel. This stuff is harder than the gates of hell, has an excellent gloss, is available also in matt and satin. You can get it mixed to any color you want. I can't tell you how well it holds up, as the expirement is just starting, but I can tell you that you can get any color you want,goes on nice, looks great, and it is about 20 bucks a gallon.
Ive used them all ...
Brightsides, and most single part urethanes, enamels, etc. simply wont last as their adhesion is poor (when 'wetted'). 2 part polyurethanes (Perfection, Interthane, etc.) will 'crater' and 'lift' if the bootstripe 'dips' below the water. The only thing Ive ever had 'last' is the mega-expensive urethane-acrylics used on mega yachts (Interthane-900 series) which are 'spray on' only. My problem is that I sail for long distances and my bootstripe may be under water for many days at a time ... and NO topside paint will last when wetted / submerged that long without lifting - not interthane, not awlgrip, not imron, etc. Currently using Signature Finish, a 'brushable' urethane-acrylic co-polymer (www.signaturefinish.com) ... but have only had it on 1 yr. ... so I cant recommend although the adhesion so far looks good.
Brightsides, and most single part urethanes, enamels, etc. simply wont last as their adhesion is poor (when 'wetted'). 2 part polyurethanes (Perfection, Interthane, etc.) will 'crater' and 'lift' if the bootstripe 'dips' below the water. The only thing Ive ever had 'last' is the mega-expensive urethane-acrylics used on mega yachts (Interthane-900 series) which are 'spray on' only. My problem is that I sail for long distances and my bootstripe may be under water for many days at a time ... and NO topside paint will last when wetted / submerged that long without lifting - not interthane, not awlgrip, not imron, etc. Currently using Signature Finish, a 'brushable' urethane-acrylic co-polymer (www.signaturefinish.com) ... but have only had it on 1 yr. ... so I cant recommend although the adhesion so far looks good.
It seems to me
.... that if you are getting "growth" at the waterline, your waterline is too low (boat may be overloaded or just doesn't sit at its design waterline). I think it is unrealistic to expect boot/cove stripe paint to resist growth. That's a job for bottom paint with some kind of anti-slime ingredient. FWIW, my old C&C sat low in the waterline and so it often fouled. Rather than raise the waterline (which can be a chore....), I simply painted the waterline with contrasting modified hard epoxy bottom paint the next season and never had growth there again.... Once the boat is in the water, I couldn't tell the difference between striping paint and shiny bottom paint. Whatever works, works.
.... that if you are getting "growth" at the waterline, your waterline is too low (boat may be overloaded or just doesn't sit at its design waterline). I think it is unrealistic to expect boot/cove stripe paint to resist growth. That's a job for bottom paint with some kind of anti-slime ingredient. FWIW, my old C&C sat low in the waterline and so it often fouled. Rather than raise the waterline (which can be a chore....), I simply painted the waterline with contrasting modified hard epoxy bottom paint the next season and never had growth there again.... Once the boat is in the water, I couldn't tell the difference between striping paint and shiny bottom paint. Whatever works, works.
Thanks for the comments ...
I'm still undecided. I would go with the Perfection if there was a color that I like and matches what I have (which matches all the canvas up top). I think the Toplac has the closest match to the color (Bounty) but I'm not sure yet so I will look for a sample to take to the boat. Failing that ... I just may give N&E's suggestion a try!
I'm still undecided. I would go with the Perfection if there was a color that I like and matches what I have (which matches all the canvas up top). I think the Toplac has the closest match to the color (Bounty) but I'm not sure yet so I will look for a sample to take to the boat. Failing that ... I just may give N&E's suggestion a try!
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