Overturned Mac????

Jan 7, 2011
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Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Looks like a 26X.

I assume it was towed to the mooring ball?
I guess the positive flotation did its job and kept it off the bottom.

But sad that someone died.

Greg
 
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Jun 11, 2004
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Oday 31 Redondo Beach
Looks like a 26X.

I assume it was towed to the mooring ball?
I guess the positive flotation did its job and kept it off the bottom.

But sad that someone died.

Greg

It is a 26 and was towed to the mooring

It is sad.

But why would anyone take a McGregor 26 or similar boat out with six people (including a child) when there is a small craft warning and it has been gusting regularly in the mid 20's and up to 30 (mph) all morning?
 
Apr 11, 2020
765
MacGregor 26s Scott's Landing, Grapevine TX
It is a 26 and was towed to the mooring

It is sad.

But why would anyone take a McGregor 26 or similar boat out with six people (including a child) when there is a small craft warning and it has been gusting regularly in the mid 20's and up to 30 (mph) all morning?
Complacence is the only answer I can come up with. It sounds like it was a family outing. So hard to get everyone together, everyone really wanted to go out (hopefully), and reluctant to call it off.
 
Oct 26, 2010
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Hunter 40.5 Beaufort, SC
I'm a little confused. Are you saying there were 6 people out sailing and the boat rolled over and then was towed to the mooring in the rolled over condition as shown in the picture? I see that implied in post #3 but that is not by the OP?
 
Jun 11, 2004
1,698
Oday 31 Redondo Beach
... Are you saying there were 6 people out sailing and the boat rolled over and then was towed to the mooring in the rolled over condition as shown in the picture?
Yes. That is apparently what happened. They were about a mile or two from the harbor with six people aboard when it went over.
I don't know if the sails were up. I didn't see anything about that in the articles I read.
 
Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
The boat has water ballast so once it flips and is flooded, it has no righting moment so the weight of the mast will keep it pinned on its side.
 

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Jun 1, 2007
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Macgregor 26S Hobie TI Ridgway Colorado
Supposedly you can open the ballast tank valve and use the boat speed with the large outboard to drain the ballast tank. Close the valve and Im not sure of exact speeds but its maybe 15 knts depending on loads, outboard hp etc. The boat is self righting with the ballast tank full but with it empty.. who knows. Once you get some water in the cabin, the boat loses additional stability.

So.. just a speculation but maybe someone was motoring with the ballast tank empty. This sounds like a bad idea so is possibly wrong so who know. You can see one rudder up (I think there are two) which also might indicate faster speed motoring.
 
Jun 8, 2004
2,906
Catalina 320 Dana Point
I believe that boat used to be in Dana Point, the name is a little uncommon, a friend also recognized it when I mentioned the incident. I saw it motoring sometimes but only saw it under sail once. It changed owners a few times while in Dana and not sure when it moved. Always the possibility of a new owner not familiar with the handling of the boat. Kinda of a high passenger count for a 26' boat which could exacerbate any problems.
 
Apr 11, 2020
765
MacGregor 26s Scott's Landing, Grapevine TX
Supposedly you can open the ballast tank valve and use the boat speed with the large outboard to drain the ballast tank. Close the valve and Im not sure of exact speeds but its maybe 15 knts depending on loads, outboard hp etc. The boat is self righting with the ballast tank full but with it empty.. who knows. Once you get some water in the cabin, the boat loses additional stability.

So.. just a speculation but maybe someone was motoring with the ballast tank empty. This sounds like a bad idea so is possibly wrong so who know. You can see one rudder up (I think there are two) which also might indicate faster speed motoring.
I suppose that it is possible that they emptied the ballast tank, but I would hope the skipper had more sense than to rob the boat of its essential ballast, particularly in the weather they were apparently experiencing. That said, people exercising poor judgment on the water is common.