Outhaul

[Whiskerpole]

On May 1st V 2296 Silentium was put in the water for the first time in 29 years.

The boat is pretty much stock with the original sails, and MD6a. It was stored covered and after a paint job and some interior work is in very good condition.

This last week I've been busy tuning the mast a rigging, however the outhaul has me stumped.

It looks like the current outhaul set up is simply a line attached to the clew and simply pulled tight by hand (no blocks) and knotted to the boom end.

Is this the stock the stock set up, or was some kind of pulley system used?

Thank you in advance

Bob

 

[albinvega3283]

Hi Bob

Ponteneur V3283 has the same simple outhaul set up of a single line from the clew and it works well. Keep it simple stupid (KISS)

David Wisdish

From: whiskerpole
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:57 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AlbinVega] Outhaul


On May 1st V 2296 Silentium was put in the water for the first time in 29 years.

The boat is pretty much stock with the original sails, and MD6a. It was stored covered and after a paint job and some interior work is in very good condition.

This last week I've been busy tuning the mast a rigging, however the outhaul has me stumped.

It looks like the current outhaul set up is simply a line attached to the clew and simply pulled tight by hand (no blocks) and knotted to the boom end.

Is this the stock the stock set up, or was some kind of pulley system used?

Thank you in advance

Bob

 

[Vega1447]

I have 2 small blocks shackled to the large swiveling loop at the end of the boom.

Reason, I occasionally forget to outhaul the sail till I'm sailing and with a 4-1 purchase I can tension the sail under load if necessary..

John V1447 Breakaway

 

[albinvega3283]

Hi John

You just use blocks on the boom end and thread the rope threw the clew cringle without a block?

David

From: John.Kinsella
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:41 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] Outhaul


I have 2 small blocks shackled to the large swiveling loop at the end of the boom.

Reason, I occasionally forget to outhaul the sail till I'm sailing and with a 4-1 purchase I can tension the sail under load if necessary..

John V1447 Breakaway

 

[Vega1447]

Hi David,
as far as I can recall, I have one block secured to the cringle and the second pass is through the cringle itself..

Works fine...

John

 

[emmajen5]

Hi Bob,

That's how mine is set up. I'm pretty sure that's the original
configuration.

Garry
Vega 2427

 

[tomfentonvega2977beowulf]

Whoever set Beowulf up shackled a small block to the end if the boom and
fitted a small cleat to the boom somewhere roughly below the clew. The line
goes from the clew, through the block and is cleated off. Works fine I like
the sound of John Kinsella's set up even better, though.

 

[albinvega3283]

John

Thanks. I might go away from KISS and use some blocks to improve foot tension.

David

From: John.Kinsella
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:47 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] Outhaul


Hi David,
as far as I can recall, I have one block secured to the cringle and the second pass is through the cringle itself..

Works fine...

John

 

[pjacobs55]

Hi Bob,
My understanding is that the outhaul can be used to change sail shape.
If you have a regular main with the bolt rope along the boom you probably also have a "flattening reef" eye just above the boom on the sail luff. This can be used as a flattening device too.

On a loose-footed main the outhaul does the job of flattening the sail. Even under moderate conditions there's a tremendous pull on the clew that requires at least a 4-part pulley to tighten the sail foot.
As there was not much room for the blocks on 1331 I attached the forward block directly to the clew with some tubular webbing.

http://www3.telus.net/sailing/outhaul2.jpg

Before I had a loose foot main the clew was held with a lashing through the eye on the end of the boom, and never got adjusted.

Peter
www.sintacha.com

 

[Whiskerpole]

Some great ideas.
Secured the main with the clew line and took the boat out for a test sail
yesterday. Will add some blocks soon. Light winds of less than 5 knots made
an ideal first outing. The biggest sail the boat came with was a No. 1 Jib,
and I can see that a Genoa would be useful in the lighter winds.
Boat sails well, a bit more tuning, and some tell tales and I?ll be ready
for Wednesday night racing.
Bob

V 2296

Silentium

 

[btfag0s]

I just use a cord taken through the clew a few times and use that like a block to tighten the foot. I've never used this as a regular sail control, not even in dinghies.

I control the flatness of the sail using the cunningham and leech line.

Alisdair

 

[SVFlyAway]

The secret to the outhaul, and reefing for that matter is to do it early
and often. That way you don't have to be a muscle man to do either. If it
is windy, tighten the outhaul before you hoist. Same for a reef, you can
put one in before hoisting. Much easier.

The flattening reef cringle is also called a Cunningham after the famous
racer Briggs Cunningham who skippered 12 meters in the America's Cup
amongst other races -- back in the 50s (also well known as an
industrialist). He was born into a rich family, so that probably helped him.

Forgive me for this bit of history, but I think it is pretty cool. He
invented the Cunningham to actually beat a racing rule. Most racing boats
have black bands at the top and bottom of the mast. The main has be flown
between the bands. Well this limits the luff -- do you make it tight or
loose? Cunningham came up with the cringle a few feet up the sail so he
could attach a line to the sail and then get it as tight as he wanted for
heavy air, but still allow the sail to be looser in light air -- still
keeping the sail between the black bands.

 

[rchrdcoe]

Briggs also raced sports cars back in the day. He built and manufactured his own cars using big american engines.