Hi, all. My wife and I are new sailors. Have been sailing about a year in an old 14 foot Puffer. Time to move up. This weekend we are testing a 1980 Cat22. It's an extremely well maintained craft. The seller is taking us out. WE are 90% sure we will buy the boat. I'll tell you what we stole it for later. The question I have is this: what size outboard is this boat truly rated for. He has given us a couple different answers. Not buying the boat with a motor, but know we need one. The one he has is old and for the money we are going to buy new. Can anyone help? Thanx, Ken
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Thanx for the input. We will be doing some river and ocean sailing, so it sounds like the 9.9 is our best option. Ken
Thanx for the input. We will be doing some river and ocean sailing, so it sounds like the 9.9 is our best option. Ken
9.9 are a bit too heavy in my opinion
weighs the transom down and takes much more strength to pull up than a 6 or an 8. I had a 5hp 4 stroke on my C22, not much oomph, but adequate 98% of the time.
weighs the transom down and takes much more strength to pull up than a 6 or an 8. I had a 5hp 4 stroke on my C22, not much oomph, but adequate 98% of the time.
simply check the owner's manual for this info...
...here you go. http://www.catalina22.org/manuals/mnl87/handbook.htm#4.5
btw I agree with dave.... I have a 9.9 on my C27 that is more than adequate. The 10 hp four strokes weigh more than 100 pounds. If you're looking for remote, electric start... the smallest I've seen is the 8hp honda.
...here you go. http://www.catalina22.org/manuals/mnl87/handbook.htm#4.5
btw I agree with dave.... I have a 9.9 on my C27 that is more than adequate. The 10 hp four strokes weigh more than 100 pounds. If you're looking for remote, electric start... the smallest I've seen is the 8hp honda.
The C22
The 1987 Manual for the C22 states:
"4.5 Auxiliary Power
4.5.1 Recommended Outboard Engine
An outboard engine of 4 to 6 horsepower should be adequate to propel the Catalina 22 at hull speed under usual conditions.
A larger engine will not increase hull speed and may add additional unnecessary weight in the stern.
Long shaft engines are preferable, however, standard length shaft engines should be adequate for most conditions."
The 1977 Manual states:
"OUTBOARD ENGINES
The Catalina 22 requires an outboard engine in the 3 to 6 horsepower range should you desire to purchase one. The factory provides an optional outboard bracket or you may purchase a commercial one. "Long shaft engines" are preferable but regular shaft will work satisfactory. "
I would add in agreement with what has been said that there are situations where one may want to have more Hp/speed if one is in high currents, winds or waves BUT this can present a problem with weight. Especially if you are considering a 4 cycle outboard engine where the weight is about 3/2 of a 2 cycle of the same HP. More weight will slow the boat and make it stern heavy while it may not necessarily get the boat moving faster than hull speed. So adding HP may only be adding weight and gasoline cost. I would probably not advise anything over 8 hp. but your situation may be different. Some sailors with C22s even use electric trolling motors with success.
We sail on a lake and our Yamaha 6Hp electric start. and it gets us along at close to 6kts on a flat lake with no head winds. Heading into 3ft waves it will go somewhat slower but that situation is rare and I may consider motor-sailing if that is the case. Typically, I have my 6hp engine's throttle set at about 25% and virtually always at less than 50%.
The 1987 Manual for the C22 states:
"4.5 Auxiliary Power
4.5.1 Recommended Outboard Engine
An outboard engine of 4 to 6 horsepower should be adequate to propel the Catalina 22 at hull speed under usual conditions.
A larger engine will not increase hull speed and may add additional unnecessary weight in the stern.
Long shaft engines are preferable, however, standard length shaft engines should be adequate for most conditions."
The 1977 Manual states:
"OUTBOARD ENGINES
The Catalina 22 requires an outboard engine in the 3 to 6 horsepower range should you desire to purchase one. The factory provides an optional outboard bracket or you may purchase a commercial one. "Long shaft engines" are preferable but regular shaft will work satisfactory. "
I would add in agreement with what has been said that there are situations where one may want to have more Hp/speed if one is in high currents, winds or waves BUT this can present a problem with weight. Especially if you are considering a 4 cycle outboard engine where the weight is about 3/2 of a 2 cycle of the same HP. More weight will slow the boat and make it stern heavy while it may not necessarily get the boat moving faster than hull speed. So adding HP may only be adding weight and gasoline cost. I would probably not advise anything over 8 hp. but your situation may be different. Some sailors with C22s even use electric trolling motors with success.
We sail on a lake and our Yamaha 6Hp electric start. and it gets us along at close to 6kts on a flat lake with no head winds. Heading into 3ft waves it will go somewhat slower but that situation is rare and I may consider motor-sailing if that is the case. Typically, I have my 6hp engine's throttle set at about 25% and virtually always at less than 50%.
Too big
The 9.9 is way too big for a Catalina 22, not to mention the price at well over $2,000.
It will look funny, cause the boat to heel and even lower the cockpit a little. 110 pounds bolted to the extreme end of a Catalina 22 will do interesting things to her balance.
10 horsepower will fling that thing around like a longboard in Hawaiian surf. Very overpowered.
I would look at a Suzuki or yamaha 4hp 4 stroke. I think one of them is available with an alternator. 6hp would be my ceiling.
The 9.9 is way too big for a Catalina 22, not to mention the price at well over $2,000.
It will look funny, cause the boat to heel and even lower the cockpit a little. 110 pounds bolted to the extreme end of a Catalina 22 will do interesting things to her balance.
10 horsepower will fling that thing around like a longboard in Hawaiian surf. Very overpowered.
I would look at a Suzuki or yamaha 4hp 4 stroke. I think one of them is available with an alternator. 6hp would be my ceiling.
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