Out-of-State trailer

[oldiesrocker2001]

The Ordeal of the trailer registration is finally over(after only 9 months) with much thanks to the guys that gave advice on my earlier thread. While I was able to convince the DMV here that the boat had never been titled or registered as it was unecessary in it's home state for that size, DMV couldn't get their heads around the fact that the trailer fell into the same category.
I finally did what a few suggested and simply went to an agency that had never seen me with questions about this trailer and simply said that I had built the trailer out of old parts laying around my place. They didnt even ask to see the pics of it and, $18. and 15min later I had a registration. That'll "learn me" for trying to do things by the book...
Not a moment too soon, as by my calculations there is likely an island that looks like Australia in the middle of my home lake by now and the little boat will be easier to launch than my Venture after this weekend.

 

[jimmyb]

The Ordeal of the trailer registration is finally over(after only 9 months) with much thanks to the guys that gave advice on my earlier thread. While I was able to convince the DMV here that the boat had never been titled or registered as it was unecessary in it's home state for that size, DMV couldn't get their heads around the fact that the trailer fell into the same category.
I finally did what a few suggested and simply went to an agency that had never seen me with questions about this trailer and simply said that I had built the trailer out of old parts laying around my place. They didnt even ask to see the pics of it and, $18. and 15min later I had a registration. That'll "learn me" for trying to do things by the book...
Not a moment too soon, as by my calculations there is likely an island that looks like Australia in the middle of my home lake by now and the little boat will be easier to launch than my Venture after this weekend.

Same mess here in taxachusetts. Most say there trailor(s) are homebuilt. Some have 2 or 3 trailers and if the reg. says homebuilt they just switch the plate to what ever they are trailoring that day. I split the cost of the boat out of the equation so I dont pay maximum excise tax on the trailor.

Now the boat itself is worse. If you dont have a title you cannot register a boat in MA. You can get around this by writing up a note saying the sailboat did not come with a motor or mount to use a motor and that it was never registered in MA. The note also must be notorized. What a freekin pain. Then you can file for a new title. All they want is your money in the long run. Sales tax, reg/plate fees and exsise till the day you die. You find out real quickly here that you dont ever own anything in MA you only lease with the permission of the tax collectors. God I cannot wait to leave this freedom void state. I wish I lived in TX for sooooooo many obvious reasons.

God Bless, jimmyb

 

[oldiesrocker2001]

Funny you mention the plate switching. While I was about to do that permanently before going the back-door route, that is just how I got the boat up to the the shop for some glassing work(not beyond me, but I'm short on free time this week). Since my V21 is still parked at my home lake, I dug out the old plate from my ODay 17 - sold in '03 - and slapped it on the Venture sitting at the lake, then attached the legal one to the little 15-footer for the trip up to the shop. Even if stopped, the legal plate's registration states vin# is unreadable...
To think I wanted to do this all on the up-and-up! :bang:

 

[jimmyb]

Oldies Rocker,
Just curious what kind of boat is your 15 ft'er. We bought our boat this year and we are thinking about getting a little bigger boat for overnighters for next season. Some where in the 18ft range to be trailer sailed on some of the larger lakes here in New England. My precision 15 was had for pretty cheap money and was wondering if I shouldn't just keep it for times when we want to sneak out quick after work to the small lake near by. whaddayathink.

jimmyb

 

[oldiesrocker2001]

Jimmy,
My 15 is a Chrysler Mutineer(nicknamed "the Mutt"). I haven't sailed it yet due to the NJ "Division of Mororist Vexing", but the concept is sound; built in roller furling for the jib, less than 700 lbs including trailer. I started out with an 11' Snark and after about 8 yrs jumped to an Oday type 17 - still about 1/2 hour from road to launch. after some years I went to the V21. Bigger boat able to go places like Lake George in NY or Biscayne bay in Fla, but MUCH longer to rig.
I picked up the 15 for
1. the ability to go sailing on short notice without running up to the boat and break it down for travel.
2. When the powers-that-be start draining my home lake it gets tough to get into the beached boat(mostly for 'the Admiral')at tne now shallow ramp, and launching/recovering can be dicey - now on gravel because the cement stops at the end of the ramp are barely covered by water.
I have a 1/2 acre here and room to store both boats in the off season, and if you have the room, I'd keep the small one. Think of between 17-21 for the larger boat and there is the possiblity of weekending or overnighting on one and at the very least the option to lock the cabin watertight in between sails.

 

[jimmyb]

Jimmy,
My 15 is a Chrysler Mutineer(nicknamed "the Mutt"). I haven't sailed it yet due to the NJ "Division of Mororist Vexing", but the concept is sound; built in roller furling for the jib, less than 700 lbs including trailer. I started out with an 11' Snark and after about 8 yrs jumped to an Oday type 17 - still about 1/2 hour from road to launch. after some years I went to the V21. Bigger boat able to go places like Lake George in NY or Biscayne bay in Fla, but MUCH longer to rig.
I picked up the 15 for
1. the ability to go sailing on short notice without running up to the boat and break it down for travel.
2. When the powers-that-be start draining my home lake it gets tough to get into the beached boat(mostly for 'the Admiral')at tne now shallow ramp, and launching/recovering can be dicey - now on gravel because the cement stops at the end of the ramp are barely covered by water.
I have a 1/2 acre here and room to store both boats in the off season, and if you have the room, I'd keep the small one. Think of between 17-21 for the larger boat and there is the possiblity of weekending or overnighting on one and at the very least the option to lock the cabin watertight in between sails.

thanks ol'rocker for your take on this one. I am thinking alot allong the lines you have described here. it is not a water level issue here but what will offer us more chances to sail and sail where we want to.

jimmyb