Our holding tanks fills

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Bob Robeson

Our tolets holding tank in our 1986 C-36 seems to fill itself without us using it. Once I open the through hole for the head inlet, it only takes a few hours before our holding tank is full. Once full, if I use the hand pump to flush the head, it just pumps out the vent (and not good clean stuff). If I go to a pump out station it takes about 10 minutes to pump it out. Once empty, I tried to fill it using the hand pump in the flush mode and I tiered out long befroe filling the tank, so I again used the pumpout station to pump it dry. With the through hull closed and it will stay empty. Openning and closeing the through hull every time we wish to use the head seems wrong, especially when you have kids and older adults(87). What causes the holding tank to fill and how do I keep from filling the holding tank if I leave the through hull open. We are looking at installing an electric head or one of the vacu flush heads. Will I still have the same proplem? Any idea? Thanks Bob
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

You have several problems...

The first one: either you're leaving the dry/flush lever in the "flush" position all the time...or the dry/flush valve has failed. Whichever it is, whether it's inconvenient or not, the head seacock--in fact, ALL seacocks--should always be kept closed except when actually in use. To rely on a valve that can easily fail--and often does--risks the safety of your vessel, your children and your elderly passengers. It's a LOT less inconvenient to open and close it each time than it is to put 'em all in life rafts. The second problem: Water tries to seek its own level...so when you open the head intake seacock, water rises in the intake hose to the waterline on the boat...if that's above the bottom of your toilet bowl, water will rise in the toilet bowl...if that's above the TOP of your toilet bowl, water will overflow the toilet bowl. There should be a vented loop between the pump and the bowl that's at least a foot above the boat's waterline at any angle of heel, so that water cannot rise over the loop and find its way into the bowl. However, that still does not excuse you from keeping the seacock closed except when the head is in use...especially when underway. There was a recent post that illustrated what can happen if you don't. Third problem (or, so how's the water getting into the holding tank?): the joker valve in your toilet discharge is leaking...apparently at about the same rate you're taking on water, or your bowl would fill up, faster than the tank. Joker valves wear out...so do all the other seals, valves and gaskets in marine toilets. When, if ever since you've owned the boat, was the last time the head was rebuilt? How old IS the toilet? Yes, replacing the toilet with an electric toilet that draws flush water off your onboard fresh water system is one solution to all of the above problems, but that's the wrong reason to replace the toilet. You can't replace every system on your boat to avoid responsibility for safe operation and proper preventive maintenance...and electric toilets--especially the VacuFlush--present their own set of maintenance and operation issues & problems.
 
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Chuck Graser

Holding tank fills

If your holding tank fills itself, be sure that you haven't left the macerator thru hull open. An open thru hull will fill the tank, just as the head thru hull will when the valve is left on wet. Chuck COLUMBINE
 
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