I'm certain someone has been through these "upgrades" and will be able to offer some suggestions. We are just ending our first season with our "brand-new" H27 and have decided that since she's still structurally sound (we lover our Hunter!) that we are going to do some upgrading when we haul out in a couple of weeks. Two interior projects in particular are going to be back breaking and messy. First, we need to put down some sole in the cabin. Not true teak/holly but something like it for not too much money (she is a '79 after all). There currently is no flooring "installed" although we did cut and place a piece of indoor/outdoor carpet as a temporary fix, which is not glued or fixed in any way. Any suggestions as to material? We saw flexi-teak at a show but thought this would be expensive. Also, any tips on easy installation? The second project is the worst. The old upholstery fabric that appears to be glued to the interior hull in the v-berth, against the settees, and the aft berth needs to be replaced. It is original and is not only butt-ugly but cannot be cleaned to my standards. Has anyone done this themselves? Any suggestions as to the best way to pull this stuff out without calling a haz-mat team?! Also, any suggestions on type of material to use as a nice replacement? Thanks in advance!
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does hull liner need to be rubber backed?
Going thru the archives, I noticed people have used everything from plain berber carpet with a standard backing (which I am sure looks nice) to marine grade carpet, to indoor/outdoor carpet. The old carpet and foam (most likely 2 seperate items) I removed from my 77' H25 stunk to high heaven from mold and mildew. I am still deciding what to use too - so your question is timely for me. It would seem like the hull will sweat no matter what and that you have to "manage" this sweat or you will have a serious mold mildew problem again. A rubber backed carpet almost seems to ignore this issue rather than manage it....not sure what happens to the mostiure with rubber backed carpet - does it stay trapped between the hull and the carpet back or what? Is a foam pad needed as many original boats had installed - the idea is to soak the mostiure then let it evoprate thru the day? Anyhow, I'll be watching this thread!!
Going thru the archives, I noticed people have used everything from plain berber carpet with a standard backing (which I am sure looks nice) to marine grade carpet, to indoor/outdoor carpet. The old carpet and foam (most likely 2 seperate items) I removed from my 77' H25 stunk to high heaven from mold and mildew. I am still deciding what to use too - so your question is timely for me. It would seem like the hull will sweat no matter what and that you have to "manage" this sweat or you will have a serious mold mildew problem again. A rubber backed carpet almost seems to ignore this issue rather than manage it....not sure what happens to the mostiure with rubber backed carpet - does it stay trapped between the hull and the carpet back or what? Is a foam pad needed as many original boats had installed - the idea is to soak the mostiure then let it evoprate thru the day? Anyhow, I'll be watching this thread!!
indoor/outdoor carpet
We went to a local carpet store and selected an indoor/outdoor carpet to use for hull liner. We wanted a light color and all the selections at Lowes/Home Depot were too dark. We selected an light tan color. It isn't rubber backed and we put it on with regular old carpet adhesive. Very happy with the results.
We went to a local carpet store and selected an indoor/outdoor carpet to use for hull liner. We wanted a light color and all the selections at Lowes/Home Depot were too dark. We selected an light tan color. It isn't rubber backed and we put it on with regular old carpet adhesive. Very happy with the results.
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Lynn
Thanks to all!
Thanks to all who responded. Looks like indoor/outdoor carpet is the most popular choice. The thought of foam absorbing "sweat" moisture makes sense but it would seem that the outer layer, which is usually some variation of synthetic/polyester, wouldn't breathe enough to allow that moisture to escape. I don't think there is anything we could do about the moisture short of leaving the hull bare with maybe topside paint only. It is a boat after all. I guess just put some nice looking carpet up and control the moisture as best we can. As for the sole, thanks for the google tip. I'll check it out. I'll try to remember to post my results after these projects are finished so check back in a few months and maybe I'll even have some pictures - you know, those glorious before and after shots that make the project even more worthwhile! Thanks again and happy boating!
Thanks to all who responded. Looks like indoor/outdoor carpet is the most popular choice. The thought of foam absorbing "sweat" moisture makes sense but it would seem that the outer layer, which is usually some variation of synthetic/polyester, wouldn't breathe enough to allow that moisture to escape. I don't think there is anything we could do about the moisture short of leaving the hull bare with maybe topside paint only. It is a boat after all. I guess just put some nice looking carpet up and control the moisture as best we can. As for the sole, thanks for the google tip. I'll check it out. I'll try to remember to post my results after these projects are finished so check back in a few months and maybe I'll even have some pictures - you know, those glorious before and after shots that make the project even more worthwhile! Thanks again and happy boating!
it's headliner material
The original wallcoverings were foam-backed headliner material, which is readily available today and inexpensive. Headliner has a couple of advantages: The foam covers irregularities like seams very effectively. I used an off-white, textured vinyl that is going to be much easier to live with than fabric or carpet.
The original wallcoverings were foam-backed headliner material, which is readily available today and inexpensive. Headliner has a couple of advantages: The foam covers irregularities like seams very effectively. I used an off-white, textured vinyl that is going to be much easier to live with than fabric or carpet.
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Greg Garner
Wall Covering
I had to use a wire brush to remove the foam backing. Dirty job that took about three days. I then used a light cord texture carpet from Lowes with a latex adhesive. it covers the imperfections very well. I am still working on what to do about the floor. My '27 had standing water in her for a couple of years before I rescued her.,.,
I had to use a wire brush to remove the foam backing. Dirty job that took about three days. I then used a light cord texture carpet from Lowes with a latex adhesive. it covers the imperfections very well. I am still working on what to do about the floor. My '27 had standing water in her for a couple of years before I rescued her.,.,
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steve rainey
hull liners
Pull off the liner, paint the inner hull with appoxy. No fuss no bother. After it dries, glue an indoor/outdoor non rubber backed carpet up and your done. Rubber backed will cause mole problems..
Pull off the liner, paint the inner hull with appoxy. No fuss no bother. After it dries, glue an indoor/outdoor non rubber backed carpet up and your done. Rubber backed will cause mole problems..
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Lynn
Thanks Greg, and others
Greg, Thanks for attaching a picture. We also have a "rescued" boat that had had some water at some point as evidenced by the teak - but not nearly as much as yours. You probably had alot of mold when you removed that liner material as I anticipate we will see too. Good luck with your boat. You'll be happy when you're done and she's in the water! She sails great!
Greg, Thanks for attaching a picture. We also have a "rescued" boat that had had some water at some point as evidenced by the teak - but not nearly as much as yours. You probably had alot of mold when you removed that liner material as I anticipate we will see too. Good luck with your boat. You'll be happy when you're done and she's in the water! She sails great!
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Bryner
A pic. of my new cushions. Navy blue w/ tan
Hello, Here's a pic. from the interior on my H27 Patch of Blue. I went with Navy blue tweed and red and tan thread thorugh it, and then Tan piping on the edges. The piping now matches the exterior canvas. I keep a short weave carpet with fringed throw rugs , or oriental rigs to give her a classy look. I have thought of the floor as the next project.
Hello, Here's a pic. from the interior on my H27 Patch of Blue. I went with Navy blue tweed and red and tan thread thorugh it, and then Tan piping on the edges. The piping now matches the exterior canvas. I keep a short weave carpet with fringed throw rugs , or oriental rigs to give her a classy look. I have thought of the floor as the next project.
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